My EV Predictions
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The Shelby is quite loud but then again its 525hp 
I prefer the c3 for highway driving and sunny days. It turns as many heads, if not more, than the Shelby does.
I prefer the c3 for highway driving and sunny days. It turns as many heads, if not more, than the Shelby does.
As time goes on, this thread will become more interesting all the time. There are many variables to be considered, few of which are even considered or known at this point in the EV evolution. There has been much discussion by experts and non experts (like the ones here on the forum) on the need for additional power generation and grid infrastructure. For every link posted with one expert answer, there is a link out there with an opposing expert answer. As far as the idea that we will be ok if everyone does not charge their car at the same time goes, I would not trust that as an answer. I think it is a dream to say EV won't be a strain on electricity generation infrastructure. You might be ok down east with hydroelectric generation and I guess we will be ok out here on the prairies as well. We will just burn more coal and natural gas in our power generation plants. Actually, once all the vehicles have gone electric, we will have lots of surplus gasoline and diesel we can burn in the plants as well.... Problem solved.
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Hey - I resemble that remark 
… adding a thought of the impact of a week-long weather event power-outage that can happen to distribution lines …
Not even an EV-Skippy can help out after a day or two.
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"Alberta will add nearly 2,000 megawatts of renewable power capacity between 2017 and 2023, while Saskatchewan will add 587 megawatts in that time. The “Canada's Renewable Power” report says the country's total installed renewable capacity will hit 71% in 2023, or 106,027 megawatts, up from 67% in 2018.|
So by next year, only 29% of the country will be on non renewable sources and it seems to be falling every year while generation keeps going up.
So by next year, only 29% of the country will be on non renewable sources and it seems to be falling every year while generation keeps going up.
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Yup … for those with a power-outage generator “plan B”.
Just don’t run outta fuel for it.
In my case, hopefully the propane truck is sustained for deliveries in NB
I can’t imagine the majority would be prepared with an extended plan B.
It’s a Nat-Gas fireplace for heat and a Nat-Gas BBQ in AB. Not perfect but neither need electricity and should be Ok.
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Many people have generators and spare gas on hand already. Ice storm predicted, go top up the gas supply. I have been on this earth for 67 years and only once did I experience a week long electrical shutdown. That was the the great ice storm in the Ottawa area in 1998. And where we were (Kanata) it was only a 4 day shutdown due to the underground wiring in the community..
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not an expert but in keeping close to the thread topic, would most generators not have the amperage/capacity for sustaining an EV along with very much of the rest of what today’s home would add/need. There are not a lot of homeowners being raised as minimalists and what one might reduce to save can have another selfishly using without restraint. This in the shadow of times that are changing and with new and more impacting events popping up without much warning.
Thinking EV tech might be able to evolve for less demand when charging … i think it takes a lot for the faster charge as many won’t like the slow EV charge method right now.
My newly built NB house has a 30amp generator plug-in connection to a subpanel with but no 220v capacity of course (so no EV quick charger if desired). i abandoned buying a portable for this add-on thinking 30Amp keeps lights on but perhaps not as great for heat. I cannot have in-slab pipes freeze. Over-thinking it perhaps but “never-ever” doesn’t seem to be a norm for me anymore. Gotta protect the mortgaged asset
… well done for now … earned and banked my 400,000th vette coin with this message tonight
Thinking EV tech might be able to evolve for less demand when charging … i think it takes a lot for the faster charge as many won’t like the slow EV charge method right now.
My newly built NB house has a 30amp generator plug-in connection to a subpanel with but no 220v capacity of course (so no EV quick charger if desired). i abandoned buying a portable for this add-on thinking 30Amp keeps lights on but perhaps not as great for heat. I cannot have in-slab pipes freeze. Over-thinking it perhaps but “never-ever” doesn’t seem to be a norm for me anymore. Gotta protect the mortgaged asset
… well done for now … earned and banked my 400,000th vette coin with this message tonight
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Rruuff! Would be much better to put that surplus gasoline to use in our Vettes. Maybe they'll lower the price. Won't hold my breath.
I think what you are trying to say at the beginning is that there are known unknowns and then there are unknown unknowns. Where did I hear that before! LOL.
Aside from that just read an article about solid state batteries. Supposedly takes 15 minutes for a full charge at the higher rate. Due in around 2028. There will just about always be some new(er) development coming along.
For now electric car cheaper than Gas . But after time when the electric car all over the gas will drop down in same the hydro going up always ..to charge the car need at least 8 hours every day and for sure you have more than 1 car oh yeah just imagine how much will be cost to pay the hydro ..in the end the gas will be cheaper .. just wait and see . 
A 240 volt outlet (same as a clothes dryer) will charge from 0 to 100% in half that time. And top offs are much quicker. Rapid Charge will get you charged in 15 - 20 minutes. Average cost to fill up with gasoline is around $100, a Rapid Charge station will cost you $12 - $14. No oil changes, no tune ups, no radiator, no exhaust system and 4 moving motor parts versus over 600. These charts show how much it costs to charge an EV vs. refueling a gas vehicle
…and the ev has zero value when the batteries are fried….and the batteries are landfilled with obvious environmental issues…
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Makes for ok reading material.
Just can’t give much value toward anything presented by the media anymore. Even two local stations can’t agree on the weather forecast most of the time.
It it a Yes, on the 240v (30-40 Amp) outlet in a residential garage. It is what I am spec’ing on drawings until current EV technology changes whereas the 110v outlet will do a quick charge (if and when). I understand some (perhaps most) are using the 110v for charging … leaving it plugged in for much longer time. This is what I think will lead to the Energy providers alerting customers not to charge during peak use hours.
The technology needs to mature and it most likely will … just makes it very hard to be able to jump into the EV puddle with both feet. jmo
Just can’t give much value toward anything presented by the media anymore. Even two local stations can’t agree on the weather forecast most of the time.
It it a Yes, on the 240v (30-40 Amp) outlet in a residential garage. It is what I am spec’ing on drawings until current EV technology changes whereas the 110v outlet will do a quick charge (if and when). I understand some (perhaps most) are using the 110v for charging … leaving it plugged in for much longer time. This is what I think will lead to the Energy providers alerting customers not to charge during peak use hours.
The technology needs to mature and it most likely will … just makes it very hard to be able to jump into the EV puddle with both feet. jmo
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A new battery pack (after a decade of average service) is around $10k (and falling) about the same price as a new gas engine. If a battery is within its manufacturer warranty, typically 8 years and 100,000 miles, then you should get a replacement battery at no extra cost. Costs of Electric Car Battery Replacement.
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- According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost ~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh.
- These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021.
- For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.
The Tesla S is a $130,000 vehicle in Canada. Far more of the less expensive models like the Chevy Volt will be sold. Tesla’s batteries are designed to outlast the body of the car itself. This means they should retain usable driving capacity well past 500,000 miles.
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