2023 Cullen allocation #'s

Canuckvetster said:
Yes, it is Brian Cullen in St Catherines. Yeah, the agreement part is ok with me but the lien is a bit over the top. From what I know this is not from GM but is there own process. Not really a friendly way to do business if you get my drift since GM will blacklist you anyways.
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I personally don't mind them doing that as it will eliminate flippers from their list
 
Canuckvetster, did you car arrive at the dealership today? I also have a $1 lien on my new HTC from there. I did not finance through the dealership.
I understand why they want to do it to protect themselves as GM hits them very hard if a car gets exported.
The car that was exported gets deducted as a counted allocation and they get penalized a future 1 or 2 allocations further lowing the dealerships current allocation which hurts with future allocations. The agreement of non-export or re-sale form says in the last paragraph that a $1 lien has been registered against the vehicle as a condition of sale for a period of 1 year and will automatically be removed at the end of the required time period.
I am still on two other lists at Cullen's and it's looking like my next car is over 12 months out still so it shouldn't pose a problem unless I want to do a pass through deal which I heard they don't do yet.
 
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Canuckvetster said:
I was informed by a friend that Cullens intends to put a lien on my car after the purchase to prevent me selling it for one year.
When I discussed the C8 purchase with the salesman I was informed verbally that I could not sell for 12 months and when I entered the allocation list agreed to those terms in principle. The dealership never put any part of the post purchase requirements in writing and was never told about the lien. So far this has been a matter of trust but is now becoming a legal affair. I have not found any other dealerships doing this and have found nothing from GM demanding this action.

Heck even the Z06 is only restricted for 6 months. I guess they expect a Stingray to be worth over MSRP even 12 months from now.
Has anyone else had this experience?

BTW I have no intention of selling at any point. Just curious.
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I have an Attorney friend in Alberta who might be able to offer a legal opinion on your situation 🙂...
 
Canuckvetster, did you car arrive at the dealership today? I also have a $1 lien on my new HTC from there. I did not finance through the dealership.
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My car should arrive on Tuesday the 27th and be delivered on the Friday if all goes well. Interesting to hear that it is now a common practice as earlier deliveries did not have this. I guess in the crazy world they need to protect themselves.
 
I don't understand the process. Are you financing through Brian? Why does dealer doing this?
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I am not financing at all. They are putting the lien on so you cannot sell the car during that period. It covers them under the 12 month requirement from GM and is above and beyond the contract we all sign at purchase. It is sad that this is where we are at but I get it. I have no plan to sell anytime soon so it is a mute point really.
 
Agree. One party can't just place a lien on someone else's property without just cause. Where is the just cause proving monies are owed? Even if such cause is conjured by that party, just paying off such conjured debt to that party, that party is obliged to discharge the lien within reasonable time. People and their convoluted schemes!
 
rhc7gc6 said:
Agree. One party can't just place a lien on someone else's property without just cause. Where is the just cause proving monies are owed? Even if such cause is conjured by that party, just paying off such conjured debt to that party, that party is obliged to discharge the lien within reasonable time. People and their convoluted schemes!
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they can if you agree to it in the sales contract or you can just take your deposit and walk away from the deal. I think this will benefit the entire C8 waiting list
 
Jack Raccoon! said:
@netsinah, could use your help here buddy...
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All vehicle liens I've dealt with, arose in the normal course (ie. a lien placed on a financed vehicle). This looks to be an imaginative/new use of the lien, designed to prevent the vehicle's resale within the first year of ownership. But technically, a lien must be discharged once the lien amount (the debt) is paid off. So as rhc7gc6 indicated, you'd think that paying the $1 "lien amount" would then require the lien's removal. I'm not sure you can mix a dollar amount (the usual "debt" recognized as making the vehicle security for the amount owing) with a time frame (no resale for a year) so this may be unenforceable. Having said that, different Provinces can have different laws/regulations...plus the dealership may (?) require a purchaser to sign an agreement where the purchaser commits to keeping the vehicle for a year...failing which there's a penalty (???). Such as agreement might give the dealership more rights. But keep in mind that all this is new, so none of this has been tested anywhere, for validity. My "gut reaction" is that a $1 lien won't be enforceable because it's coupled with a time frame but who knows when we're sailing in unchartered waters...
 

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