Peace River N Da House - The arrival of Garry's VY 06 Z06

Good evening Manny, everyone,

Shucks why did I come up on the bottom side of Paul's? Oh well, at least my car should be lighter! Of course it should make my gains all the more impressive when I pass Paul in the end then, right?!

I'm sure that 3% is not out of the ordinary for variation between engine builds anyway. Could be my 91 octane fuel compared to his 93 even.........he can pull more timing after all? If this did make the difference I'd have to start sourcing 93 fuel somewhere!

It will do me good to be able to listen to this during the winter when it is cold and I miss my car.

As far as top speed, I thought that the Z06 reached Vmax in 5th gear stock? While gearing is a factor maybe now it will push further in 6th.......plus Manny was mentioning bumping the redline slightly too.

I know, for example, the mid 1980's Porsche 930 turbo used to max out in 5th gear at redline, 6000 rpm at, 160 mph, but that seemed to be an oddity for cars. Most cars don't reach top speed at redline as peak hp is produced below redline normally.

If the engine hp and torque curves are both increased in number and at a higher rpm post-mod then I would be expecting the car will have a higher top end as well as accelerating faster.

If it reaches 318 in 5th gear under it current 7000 rpm redline then it ought to come closer to redline with more hp thus go faster........Manny??

Cheers,

Garry
 
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Good evening Manny, everyone,

Shucks why did I come up on the bottom side of Paul's? Oh well, at least my car should be lighter! Of course it should make my gains all the more impressive when I pass Paul in the end then, right?!

I'm sure that 3% is not out of the ordinary for variation between engine builds anyway. Could be my 91 octane fuel compared to his 93 even.........he can pull more timing after all? If this did make the difference I'd have to start sourcing 93 fuel somewhere!

It will do me good to be able to listen to this during the winter when it is cold and I miss my car.

As far as top speed, I thought that the Z06 reached Vmax in 5th gear stock? While gearing is a factor maybe now it will push further in 6th.......plus Manny was mentioning bumping the redline slightly too.

I know, for example, the mid 1980's Porsche 930 turbo used to max out in 5th gear at redline, 6000 rpm at, 160 mph, but that seemed to be an oddity for cars. Most cars don't reach top speed at redline as peak hp is produced below redline normally.

If the engine hp and torque curves are both increased in number and at a higher rpm post-mod then I would be expecting the car will have a higher top end as well as accelerating faster.

If it reaches 318 in 5th gear under it current 7000 rpm redline then it ought to come closer to redline with more hp thus go faster........Manny??

Cheers,

Garry
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Uhhhh, so now Canada has adopted the 5th Amendment??!! I mean I'll take their cars for sure but their laws and politics probably not!

Cheers,

Garry
 
:agree:

And I vote for stock, sleeper look. A yellow 'Vette in Peace Country is plenty of bravado as it is. It's not downtown Toronto where you need to differentiate between all the other yellow Zo6s.....

Just my two cents........

Either way, when's the popcorn lurker smiley going to arrive Riley?
 
Good morning Gentlemen,

The day after it is still a heady experience. But at this stage it is the wanting and anticipating that has been so much fun. I don't doubt that the having will also be a great deal of fun but we'll have to see how I weather the 5 month waiting period until I can get in the seat.

I had another thought regarding the difference in Paul's and my car's initial rwhp. While fuel could be a difference, I was wondering about the transmission. Sure both 6 speeds but my 2006 has the T56 and Paul's being a 2010 should have the T6060. Same gear rations sure but possibly a difference in efficiency?? We know that manuals transfer more power to the wheels from and engine than an automatic so why not slight differences between manual transmissions as well? The curse with not being able to sleep sometimes at night!

I guess there are only two ways to go, let them see that the car had been improved visually or let them find out on the road.

But again I've wondered down the garden path, this is for me and for my pleasure. I had little to worry about from local cars with it stock, no one outside of that one silly Challenger driver ever asked me to race so maybe they already realize how spirited a stock Z06 is and that they'd be wasting their time.

The emblem would have bee sort of cool. Subtle enough that it would not stand out but those in the know would realize something was different.

Your point is correct xlr8r, but even in Edmonton and Calgary you'd find a sufficient number of way above 750 hp C6's there that I would once again be a small fish in a big pond. Something less likely to happen in the Peace Country though...........

It will be interesting to follow the progress of the mods as Manny gets them in place! I'm buckling my seatbelt for this ride. Maybe it's 5 point harness time?

Cheers,

Garry
 
Good afternoon,

I went and had lunch with my son today, "Family Friday" as it happened to be. I had shown my son the video of the pre-mod dyno run yesterday. He misunderstood what was happening and so told his classmates (the boys anyway) that the Z06 was gone to get "tuned and modifications'. And then he described how the car now sounds.

I didn't have the heart to correct him that this was the way the car normally sounds and there haven't been any modifications yet! You don't want to squash that sort of enthusiasm!

Their question - would the Z06 afte modification be faster than a Mercedes CLK.........!

I told them that the street version of the CLK has 604 hp, 0 to 60 in 3.8 sec and a top speed of 199 mph so the stock Z06 is pretty well on par with it. I told them after the work being done we'll be looking for more competition than just a CLK...........

Much smiling and nodding ensued. Aidan's friend Donny said "That's American V8 for ya!".

Sometimes I have just the best of days.

Cheers,

Garry
 
I don't think I would sneeze at 750 HP no matter where I was. 750 HP in a Z06 is a big fish that less than 1/10,000 cars could keep up with. There will always be a faster car somewhere of course but the chances of meeting one is rare at best. If you do meet one, count it as a good opportunity to make friends with someone that has the same passion for awesome, fast cars!

That is hilarious the kids talking about which is faster. I remember having those conversations....however, my dad never had anything that could blow the doors off any car on the road! That is fantastic! I look forward to hearing about your first drive!
 
Hi Riley,

You're right of course. My son was always asking me over the summer if this car was faster than the Z06 or that car was faster and I started to tell him that the Z06 was faster than 99 out of 100 cars that we'd meet on the road. I told him with the upcoming mods that it would now be faster than 999 out of 1000 cars we'd meet.

I like your 9999 out of 10000 better!

But I do agree it will be unlikely that I'll encounter anything faster unless either of the Gallardo's or the GTR or the Audi R8 V10 in Grande Prairie have been modded.

But honestly the Mercedes CLK is a really nice looking car and I was surprised that with a bit less weight than a Z06 and about 100 hp more (600 to 604) that it was slightly slower and only 1 mph top end faster.

Considering the CLK once held the "honor" of the most expensive car you could buy (1.5 million) and to be no faster than a run of the mill $110,000 mass production car makes me wonder about the price of being exclusive...........

You know, the more I learn about the Z06 and other high price exotics the more I am just astounded by the job that the Chev engineers did in making this car.

Honestly, if I had the money I've never buy an exotic but I'd start filling the barn with Z06's. Only about 24,000 made, some wrecked already and no C6 Z06 or C6 ZR1 replacement in sight with the new C7 model this cars ought to hold their value as the top performing Corvette models...........

Of course now Aidan wants to know if it is faster than a Koinesegg......I had to say nope.........1250 or whatever hp is going to be beyond my pocketbook.

But I have to love his excitement for an 8 year old!

Cheers,

Garry
 
Hahaha! That is hilarious! I think he's just trying to get a feel for what cars you can and can't beat!:rofl:

It really is amazing what chev did with the Corvette, isn't it?
 
Good afternoon Riley,

I actually hate to admit it but I think he looks for cars that would actually be faster than the Z06 to rub my face in it since I keep telling him how fast the car is!

These cars are really something else. I was surprised that the C4 ZR1 would apparently do 180 mph, the C6 Z51 186, the C6 GS 190, the Z06 198 and the ZR1 205. That is just world class performance. Especially when you look at the number of Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini models that are not that fast. And stock Audi R8 and GTR. Even the Ford GT.

Like I said if I had more $ I'd be stockpiling C6 Z06's in the barn for future use as they will become less and less common in the future as they get wrecked etc. It just seems insane that you can buy a car like that for plus or minus 45K.

When Robbie Dickson ran his Aventador off the end of the runway at Cold Lake this summer and damaged some bodywork and we later heard it was going to be a 50K bill or talking with one of the guys from Euro Exotic Auto who said that servicing a Gallardo would be 15K you really have to wonder about these people. But then again maybe if I had that kind of money I'd do the same thing. But given the way I've bought farm equipment I am concerned with performance and cost so in some ways buying the Z06 was emulating my farm equipment buying habit. And with some farmers it is a case of trading in equipment every 2 or 3 years to have the newest and best.

And if you think some cars are expensive, John Deere's newest combine will I think set you back about 500K!! Loast fall I bought a 1997 9600 combine for 50K - at the time bemoaning that I could have bought a Z06 instead.........but I just had to wait 5 months for a clean cancer checkup.

Even Dad was astounded the first time I took him to the plus side of 250 and stood on the brakes, I've never had a vehicle pull down so straight, I could have taken my hands off the steering wheel when I did it.

Cheers,

Garry
 
Don't go out in the country and start bragging about your expensive car. As Garry said, many farmers already know what EXPENSIVE is. Back in about 1970, some smart ass Toronto lads came into hick town Warsaw looking for a race with their 340 Dart. Brad had a 396 Chevelle and they weren't interested in that. They definitely weren't interested in running my COPO Chevelle. We then sent them down the middle street to Harry Sherry's body shop. Harry had just finished up the four Ford of Canada racing team cars and the car hauler. http://www.google.ca/imgres?num=10&...w=192&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:87 The cars were lined up across the front of the shop with the car hauler, in matching paint, in the side yard. They came back ooing and awing. I guess they were impressed. We had a big chuckle. Country folk are not easily impressed. :seeya:
I don't think Garry is going to have much competition in his neck of the woods. There are a couple of C5 supercharged Corvettes in our area. The C5 Z06 dynoed around 580+ hp at the wheels I believe.
 
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Good morning Keith,

That must have been the glory days of the car craze back then. I envy you for having lived through those days. I can't imagine a company having a program like that today where they bring around cars and performance packages to show off at drag strips across the country.

It sort of reminds me of the Apollo program. I remember it as a child in school, the who school would get together and gather around the TV set to watch the launch, landing and splashdown and we were in awe of what was taking place.

I think you're right though. It is not very likely that I'm going to come across any faster cars than my Dasilva prepped Z06 once it is done. Sure there may be some people out there more desiring of power (and a lot with more $ than me!) that may ramp up their cars but I'm not too sure where I'd find them.

They have a "Race Wars" in Grande Prairie every two years (should be happening in 2013) and there are a number of quick 1/4 mile cars but while some people "live their lives 10 seconds at a time" I'd rather enjoy the sensation of speed for longer periods (and safely) if I can. I want the project to finish with a very quick car (not that it wasn't already) but I also want it to be a very fast car too. I like the European approach better where it is not a 1/4 mile race but a mile race to see whose car is fastest. Getting a car to go quickly to 200 kmph is one thing but a vehicle to be capable of rapidly reaching 300 kmph and faster is more my interest. The difference for me between a 12 and 13 second car is less than the difference between 250 and 300 kmph. Lots of quick cars out there, not as many fast ones though.

I'm still trying to get in contact with the High North Sports Car Club in Grande Prairie but have been unable to register even though I've tried a few times - and they wonder why they only have 40 members! They are mostly import/drifter types but there is a lot of similarity between car nuts regardless of the type of experience we're looking for.

I know that I will be happy with the result, not only to not have to back down from a stock ZR1 but also to be able to handle the new 2014 Viper, 3300 lb and 640 hp should not be a problem. I'm not even sure if I'll ever see one up here given the MSRP it will be rumored to be selling for. But as there are two Gallardo's there are car people with $.

And even if I get to be "King of the Road" for a while, kings always fall. But being a prince, duke or earl would still be OK for me in the end...........

Cheers,

Garry
 
Good morning LSXtasy,

I do have some confidence that they would not have been a problem stock. I don't know the year of the Gallardo's nor if they have been modified or not. But I know that the 2006 Z06 was a faster car than the 2006 Gallardo. The first 520 hp cars were not a problem for a stock Z06 but the subequent 550, 560 and 570 cars would be slightly faster. But when Manny gets done I expect that there will be a "run of the bulls" so to speak but the bulls fleeing from me, not the other way around! There are a bunch of 750 Gallardo's that have been prepped but as far as I know they are all in Edmonton, Calgary or Vancouver.

But I'd be lying that I would mind meeting up with them anyway, same with the GTR and R8 V10. Different bankbooks but all owners who like to go fast........

Sadly Race Wars in GP is only a 1/4 mile event, I don't think they do a top speed challenge which would be more interesting to me.

Maybe I shouldn't be so focused on having a very fast car. I can say one thing though, as much as it might have been enjoyable to have something like this when I was in my 20's, I am sort of glad that I am going through it now when I am more mature and hopefully less likely to be reckless about driving it.

I'm getting better at having the thought of tickets, fines and seizures in my mind and that would be a real shame if I ended up being that stupid and careless. As it was with this year, I intend to pick my time and place for WOT moments in the 2013 season..........

Cheers,

Garry
 
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It's always fun to see what your car can run against. Drag racing a test and tune night is always a blast. I highly recommend(if available on location) signing up for a track day(road coarse) with in car instruction. I did my first event last year at Mosport and it was a total riot. It was amazing to see what my "old" Z06 could blow by! I fell deeper in love her after that day. There's so much to learn, so don't expect to be an expert by the end of the day. You will walk away with more experience and things that can and will help in your day driving. The skidpad and high speed slalom were so fun and crazy all at once. I want to do more of these events next year. Autocross is another great outlet and relatively cheap to get into.

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Good morning LSXtsy,

No doubt doing a test and tune someplace would be good. Hard to locate a good basic garage in this area let alone someone with experience of managing non-stock cars. Even the threads for the High North Sports Car Club seem to indicate people doing work on their own and I know as well with the Dawson Creek Autocross Club they do the work themselves or sent it out to places like Edmonton. Almost explains why outside of the weather so amny people here drive trucks!

For sure if there was a track in this neck of the woods I would be there but again it is a case of going to Edmonton, 500 km away, which would be the closest. Grande Prairie has a (dirt I believe) oval but not my scene.

I did find my single autocorssing experience very enjoyable and learned about how far you can push these cars and that they are so stable and solid. It is my plan to do more in 2013 as work allows.

As well, just to meet more car people, the HNSSC had a cruise day when they actually came north toward me in my neck of the woods, so I think I would drive down to start with them but then stop back at home when they turn around. It is nothingcompetative but just a bunch of car guys getting together to convoy and make a few stops for food on the way.

I am hoping to meet more of the Corvette owners next eyar as well. Maybe I'll have to be less complacent and when I see one turn around, follow, flash my lights and stalk them and just sort of meet and greet. There are also loads of Challengers and Mustangs but I'm not sure if I'm ready to go slumming (sorry Mrs. Riley!) just yet. I've seen at least 10 Corvettes in either Fairview, Grimshaw or Peace River and maybe it is a matter of trying to mobilize them.

But your biggest point which I fully agree with you on is trying to do some organized and off-public road activities for which I'm always jealous of you people in larger centers.

And who knows, maybe I'll just have to watch more carefully and during the summer when they have activities at places like Race City Speedway drive down and participate. At the vary least it would be a lot of fun I'm sure, the vid's they've posted look exactly like the experiences I'm looking for............plus I get to see just how good the car will be against some of these other makes.

Cheers,

Garry
 
If the weathers nice... I could have your car "over" for Christmas... nice family get together...
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Good morning 7L,

It would be so nice if so you lived 1320' from Manny's place too but I don't imagine we'd be that lucky. I am actually not sure when the work is scheduled to be done given that there is a 5 month window it should not be a priority for others who might say be wanting to take their new cars on a trip down south or something like that.

Canada Post has still not graced my mailbox with any "bundles of money" (how my son talks about these apparent large sums of money he thinks I make!!!!) but I am living in hope that at least one will eventually be arriving so I can get my brake pads etc.

I take the the picture is the road outside your place! But of course not from your juvenile activities..........

I was wondering if Manny was going to actually string Christmas lights on the car over the holidays but then again it would have been better to have had a green car for that purpose and I'd rather he not paint it. I suppose a more appropriate thought is getting chains or good winter tires and then hooking it up to Santa's sled. Now that would be travelling in style and also finally answer that age old question of exactly how does Santa get around to all the houses all over the world, the old guy's got an LS7 powered sleigh it turns out. If Manny gets the mods on then old Saint Nick might be able to improve his delivery time and hit the eggnog earlier than in the past.

I find this one of the odder and one of the more enjoyable roads I've ever ventured down. It will make up about 1% of having had cancer when I stomp that throttle this spring......

Cheers,

Garry
 

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