Maybe if everyone destroyed the ballot they's get the message? NOT! Egoists will claim it was rigged or something.
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Maybe if everyone destroyed the ballot they's get the message? NOT! Egoists will claim it was rigged or something.
lol.... Reminds me of Jack Donald, previous owner of Parkand Industries (Fas Gas). Many years ago when gasoline was a lot cheaper that now, Jack Donald decided that he was raising the price of gas (pocket lining) and threatened the other companies that they better follow suit or else. The public went ballistic and called for everyone to boycott Fas gas stations. There might have been 3 or 4 people who actually did.
All destroying your ballot does is takes away your right to criticize the government. Be part of the solution and cast your vote. If Poilievre doesn't perform any better than Trudeau, punt him out after 4 years. That was the problem last election. Sandal after scandal after scandal and and the majority turned their heads the other way.
No actually destroying your ballot counts as a vote, but it doesn't count for anyone. It sends a message. If 50% of the population voted and out of them only 30% were for anyone it tells all parties that they aren't liked. That includes the current government.
Canada needs to do what Ontario did to the Provincial Liberals. Absolutely devastate the Federal Liberal Party and the NDP. It amazes me that simultaneously Canada and the United States could have the absolute worst leaders possible. Both conniving, lying crooks looking after their own and their friends interests. If our potato lacks the ability to manage it only gets worse because those under him are equally incompetent and share the same dishonest traits. Masters of the cover up, protecting the party but no longer the country.
Change will only take place if we make them. If you get complacent you get what Toronto got, a leftist nit wit replacing another political hack who lacked any critical thinking skills. I have zero pity for the people in Toronto with what is happening to that once great place. They allowed it to happen, reap the benefits.
Change will only take place if we make them. If you get complacent you get what Toronto got, a leftist nit wit replacing another political hack who lacked any critical thinking skills. I have zero pity for the people in Toronto with what is happening to that once great place. They allowed it to happen, reap the benefits.
Ontario did nothing. The liberals did it to themselves. Wynn was a complete and utter idiot. Selling off money generating assets etc. and she was replaced with an equal idiot. Only to put another idiot in with a majority once again. It was totally a case of "the best of two evils".
Yes. They are added to the tally of votes submitted, but otherwise mean nothing to anyone. Unless everyone destroyed their ballots it sends no message whatsoever. They are just rejected and don't necessarily mean dissatisfaction with anyone. Ballots get rejected for lots of reasons. You can write why you are destroying it right on the ballot but no one reads it. If you're going to destroy a ballot, stay home as all you're doing is wasting someone's time and making the voter turnout number look better than it actually is.
I don't agree at all. Politicians will see it and the more that do it, the stronger the message. Destroying your ballot is exercising your right to vote and you are stating you dislike them all. Is it better to vote for the "purple" party for example? That gives confidence to a party you really don't care about. Or do you vote for the lesser of two evils? Why tell them you agree with their platform? Again it just inflates their parties voter base. IMO if you don't agree with any of them then none of them deserve your vote.
So true and like Murray said not voting is equal to giving each of them a vote
But does it matter who is in power anyway ? ..... Stuff like this will go on and on
These pics are at the corner of Islington and Queensway Iv been looking at these for over a year ... but I thought I'd snap a pic today to share as I was passing right by
Just a shining example of how our politicians ....at every level of government .... (and here in toronto we experience all 3 parties
Trudeau = Lib Ford = PC Olivia = NDP) ... so carefully look after the needs of the people
And in this case its our kids that pay the price
Thats ok...... just stick children in portables so they can roast in the summer and freeze in the winter
Notices like this should not exist .... Yet here they are
Attachments
Not to mention the fact that ... let alone the schools ... but the TTC , hospitals , police and all other vital infrastructure can by no means handle this influx
But its ok ... as long as the developer can buy his next Rolls Royce and envelopes are freely flowing to the ward councillors and above .
Moreover good old Olivia whose party is for the " working class " has just sent out over 100,000 letters to people who forgot to declare their occupancy status of their own houses they live in ... telling them they have to pay thousands in Vacant home tax ... now these people have to go through an appeals process
If we cant even use our own properties the way we like without paying massive penalties ... how can we say we live in a totally free society ? Especially when governments do what they want whenever they want with absolutely no consequences.
I demand an investigation ! - Mortimer Duke ... Trading Places
But its ok ... as long as the developer can buy his next Rolls Royce and envelopes are freely flowing to the ward councillors and above .
Moreover good old Olivia whose party is for the " working class " has just sent out over 100,000 letters to people who forgot to declare their occupancy status of their own houses they live in ... telling them they have to pay thousands in Vacant home tax ... now these people have to go through an appeals process
If we cant even use our own properties the way we like without paying massive penalties ... how can we say we live in a totally free society ? Especially when governments do what they want whenever they want with absolutely no consequences.
I demand an investigation ! - Mortimer Duke ... Trading Places
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There is no such thing. Everything costs something.
Can you still find an uninhabited island in international waters?
The last time I was a scrutineer at an election, we counted the few spoiled ballots and the number was logged. But I don't remember any news outlet reporting how many spoiled ballots there were. That is one failing of our election night reporting. Does Election Canada (or the provincial equivalent) report it or make the information available? If it is not reported, then it is a waste of time and effort.
It's not my idea. It's been around forever. Number of voters are registered and reported. They have no idea who spoiled the ballot and votes only count for the people running obviously. So any who care could see that the difference. Of course as RRuuFF pointed out, ballots can be spoiled by accident as well, so it requires numbers to make any real difference.
What I like is if you hate them all, it's a way to say you voted so you can still bitch about the elected government!
Yes of course they have the number of spoiled ballots ... somewhere ... I definitely remember hearing them mentioning it periodically while watching the returns on like CP24 ... widely publicised ? Not so much ...
I really wish that the number of spoiled ballots were more widely reported as I like the idea of a protest vote. But at the end of the day, would the politicians really care?
Great points .... however isnt that the point of a demonstration ... to ruffle feathers .... if you get a group of protestors that sing their songs in a desolate corner of a park, the powers that be will just laugh at them . I stand firm with these types of protests as long as no one gets hurt . And isnt it the job of our elected officials work diligently to meet with these groups to find productive solutions ? But what does our commander in chief do ? Invoke the emergencies act , brand protesters as terrorists and seize bank accounts.
I have to agree fully with the remarks of the MPs in that vid.
Good friend of mine is a TTC guy .... local 113 just recently got their right to strike back ( which pretty much means nothing ) however their current collective agreement expired on Apr 1 2024 ... and to put it mildly the 2 sides couldnt be further apart in negotiations ... from wages to benefits to contract language
So expect the members of 113 to announce a strike very soon. But not to worry because Ford himself will legislate them back probably within 24 to 48 hours
He'll start working on the process of achieving royal ascent for their back to work legislation before they even walk off the job.
But they were hurting people!! That was more like domestic terrorism than anything else.
I'm all in favour of protests, but they must be done legally and without violence of ANY kind and without interfering on others right to live and work in peace.