Your View on New Pipeline to BC's North coast and other Canadian Pipeline Dreams

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Given the latest memorandum of understanding signed by Daniel Smith and Mark Carney on the proposed pipeline through BC, I thought Id toss this and other Canadian pipeline dreams up for discussion. Feel free to express your opinions and reasoning behind them. Roughly 60% of Canadians support the AB-BC pipeline. Personally I support the pipeline proposal but cautiously think that Carney's signing of the understanding is nothing but a ploy to make western provinces think he cares about us. Unless they can find a proponent to offer to build it, and Carney is prepared to veto BC's premier's and the Coastal First Nation's arguments against it, I can't see it being built. If I am wrong, it also sets the stage to veto Quebec's argument and approve the eastern pipeline in the future as well.

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I don't see any major players...aka ..pipeline companies stepping up to the plate. They have been pretty quiet on this. Even if it was built, it wouldn't be finished until about 2040..............I'll be 90 and probably wearing diapers and a bib. Puts the ball in her court where she has to persuade someone to build it or finance herself /Alberta Government. That would be a big NO. Already 14 of her caucus are being petitioned on a recall drive and for many reasons.......plus she is a Trump lover
 
Would like to see "Canadian" northern route in to QC and maybe NB for export.
Then Enbridge could just shut down the southern route if they are too belligerent down there. After all, DJT says they don't need anything from Canada.
As to BC. Yep! We need to get it to market.
The caveat is to make it so it benefits everyone along the line.
 
The trouble with a "northern" route is the Canadian Shield. They tried that once. And I believe only once.
Same reason there will never be one to Churchill. There are enough swamps, muskeg, lakes rivers to swallow every piece of pipeline equipment in Canada, never mind the rocks. Everyone who has lived in the shield can tell you that.
And the mosquitos in the summer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
muddy said:
I don't see any major players...aka ..pipeline companies stepping up to the plate. They have been pretty quiet on this. Even if it was built, it wouldn't be finished until about 2040..............I'll be 90 and probably wearing diapers and a bib. Puts the ball in her court where she has to persuade someone to build it or finance herself /Alberta Government. That would be a big NO. Already 14 of her caucus are being petitioned on a recall drive and for many reasons.......plus she is a Trump lover
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Agreed. No major players but that is to be expected at this stage of hers and Carney's little toot for tat game. But. And this is a big but. If Carney (much to my surprise) fully commits to vetoing David Eby and the Coastal first nations refusals, and trashes the tanker ban, the major players would likely start to take an interest. Time will tell and as I inferred, I don't believe Carney cares any more about the west than Trudeau did. Smoke and mirrors and when push comes to shove, the MOA he signed won't be worth the paper in is written on.
 
copied this from a "social" site and thought it was quite humorous.................................
 

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Can anyone explain why another pipeline couldn't be built parallel to the existing Trans Mountain line which already goes to Tidewater ? Would seem to be logical although that may well be the problem. Already been surveyed, known ground and topography, access to the route already sorted and it would seem that any opposition to the routing of it was addressed with big enough cheques .
 
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Can anyone explain why another pipeline couldn't be built parallel to the existing Trans Mountain line which already goes to Tidewater ? Would seem to be logical although that may well be the problem. Already been surveyed, known ground and topography, access to the route already sorted and it would seem that any opposition to the routing of it was addressed with big enough cheques .
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We need to get more access to other markets one way or another. South route might actually be easier. Pay attention to what Trump is up to with Venezuela. He's not trying to create another democracy, he wants their oil to supply the gulf coast refineries with the heavy oil they crave and currently get from Canada. US production cost is currently higher that the market price. If he gets their oil we will get another middle finger from him and find our primary existing market is gone.
 
1st Vette said:
Can anyone explain why another pipeline couldn't be built parallel to the existing Trans Mountain line which already goes to Tidewater ? Would seem to be logical although that may well be the problem. Already been surveyed, known ground and topography, access to the route already sorted and it would seem that any opposition to the routing of it was addressed with big enough cheques .
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The Westridge Marine Terminal can only accommodate a max of 630,000 bpd and there is likely not the capacity there for additional tanker ships either. It takes 24 to 36 hours to load one tanker ship. Whether the Burnaby port could be expanded or not would also depend on if the additional tanker traffic can be put in a holding pattern as there are some restrictions related to the ships draft and timing with the tide as well.
 
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The proposed pipeline is in the wrong direction. The Canadian shield is an engineering problem that can be dealt with, albeit with some cost. At least bring it to Southern Ontario.
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We would gladly bring a pipeline right to the Atlantic Fred but there's a province in the way. :Banghead: Canada imports roughly 500,000 barrels of oil per day at a cost of about $20 billion per year. 320,000 of those barrels per day go to Canada's largest refinery in New Brunswick (Irving Oil). Alberta produces about 3.1 million barrels per day and we would like nothing better than to supply all of Canada's oil instead of shipping it to the US and then buying it back from them. Makes no sense but the vast majority of Canadians only know that their gas comes out of a hose and electricity comes out of wires in their walls.
 

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