Winter storage question

WTH, if rodent risk during winter storage is “expected or high” get a better storage location🙄. Its not like we don’t have a $100G’s plus into a C8 and some people twice that. So stop overthinking this one or be prepared to deal with any of the consequences.
 
WTH, if rodent risk during winter storage is “expected or high” get a better storage location🙄. Its not like we don’t have a $100G’s plus into a C8 and some people twice that. So stop overthinking this one or be prepared to deal with any of the consequences.
Mice get in. They can enter a hole as small as a dime. If they want in, they will get in. A bag of rodent deterrent is much cheaper than $10,000.00 to seal up a garage. Just because I spent my life savings on a car doesn't mean I'm made of money!
 
WTH, if rodent risk during winter storage is “expected or high” get a better storage location🙄. Its not like we don’t have a $100G’s plus into a C8 and some people twice that. So stop overthinking this one or be prepared to deal with any of the consequences.
Or……
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I drive my car in the winter. I'm not taking it in and out of a perma bag!! FFS!
Buy a bag of deterrent and sleep better and drive better! LOL
If you live in NWT I understand, but BC? Give me a break!
I think we were aware of that but it might do the trick for those who suffer from suriphobia ;)
 
I've stored mine in a rented cold storage in Saskatchewan. Battery tender, car cover, and some fuel stabilizer. I didn't even move the car to avoid flat spots and never had an issue over the last couple years. The storage unit operator has their own mice control, as that's a common concern for people who store furniture, etc. in there.
 
All gasoline sold in Canada contains a minimum of 10% ethanol by law . Complete hogwash….
It's NOT my hogwash, my friend. Last year, 2024, I was in the office of Barry Beecroft Fuels and asked for confirmation that their premium had no ethanol. I was told it contained zero ethanol. Now if that's changed since then, and it seems to have done so, then that's unfortunate. I don't like
how ethanol attracts water when a vehicle is in storage. I just wanted to make sure that everyone is clear that I wasn't lying...it's not popular out west.
 
It's NOT my hogwash, my friend. Last year, 2024, I was in the office of Barry Beecroft Fuels and asked for confirmation that their premium had no ethanol. I was told it contained zero ethanol. Now if that's changed since then, and it seems to have done so, then that's unfortunate. I don't like
how ethanol attracts water when a vehicle is in storage. I just wanted to make sure that everyone is clear that I wasn't lying...it's not popular out west.
I believe it's a Federal regulation and wasn't implying it was your hogwash obviously . Simply saying that the regulation is . sorry for your confusion . ..
 
I believe it's a Federal regulation and wasn't implying it was your hogwash obviously . Simply saying that the regulation is . sorry for your confusion . ..
No worries, 1st Vette, I'm fairly confident that Barry's was telling the truth about their premium in 2024, you wouldn't know when the federal mandate about all gas having to have 10% ethanol came out, would you?
 
No worries, 1st Vette, I'm fairly confident that Barry's was telling the truth about their premium in 2024, you wouldn't know when the federal mandate about all gas having to have 10% ethanol came out, would you?
As well as the following individual provinces can go beyond these requirements. Ontario will be at 15% apparently by 2030 . A number of provinces are currently at 10% . Barry I would guess is either misinformed or wanting to sell more gas , ;) you could maybe find this info on the Government web site if you were able to navigate that mess .......something tells me that it's now been a minimum of 10% for the last 2 years .

Canada’s federal regulations require that gasoline sold nationwide contains, on average, at least 5% ethanol, as mandated by the Renewable Fuels Regulations that came into force in December 2010. While this federal requirement still provides the national baseline, a newer framework—Canada’s Clean Fuel Regulations (CFR)—has been in effect for over two years and is designed to further reduce the carbon intensity of transportation fuels, encouraging higher levels of ethanol blending as provinces adopt stricter measures.

Federal Ethanol Mandate​

  • The Renewable Fuels Regulations mandate a 5% minimum ethanol content by volume in gasoline produced or imported for use in Canada.
  • Enforcement began on December 15, 2010, and this level remains the present federal minimum.

Evolving Regulations Under the Clean Fuel Regulations​

  • The Clean Fuel Regulations (CFR) focus on lowering the carbon intensity of fuels but do not directly raise the federal ethanol mandate above 5% as of 2025.
  • Provinces can (and do) set higher minimums—Ontario, for instance, is transitioning toward E15 (15% ethanol in gasoline) by 2030, with E10 (10%) already common.
  • The federal CFR requires primary fuel suppliers to reduce the carbon intensity of their fuel pools, and the use of ethanol is one available tool to meet these requirements.

Provincial Variation​

  • Some provinces require more ethanol in gasoline than the federal minimum. For example, as of 2025, Manitoba and Ontario require at least 10% ethanol, and Quebec plans a similar increase by 2030.
  • The effective ethanol content in retail gasoline may exceed 5% in many jurisdictions, driven by provincial mandates and efforts to comply with the federal CFR.
 
Since 2010, most fuel suppliers worked the system by putting 5% in their 85 and 10% in their 87. That let them meet the 5% minimum based on volume and allowed them to have no ethanol in their 91. Don't know if any of them are still doing that but our Co-op only has the ethanol stickers on 85 and 87. None on their 91.
 
Since 2010, most fuel suppliers worked the system by putting 5% in their 85 and 10% in their 87. That let them meet the 5% minimum based on volume and allowed them to have no ethanol in their 91. Don't know if any of them are still doing that but our Co-op only has the ethanol stickers on 85 and 87. None on their 91.
Does seem to vary depending on the jurisdiction. They are maybe using a side door to circumvent the letter of the law so to speak. Good on Co-Op ! The Co-Op here though used to show ' Top Tier ' fuel on the pump display but now it only says ' quality fuel ' . But who reads that or knows the difference ? Not many I suspect. Even though I have been a Co-Op member for 40 years I buy my fuel at Shell. Top Tier stickers on the new pumps installed a month ago but no mention of booze in the gas .
 
Does seem to vary depending on the jurisdiction. They are maybe using a side door to circumvent the letter of the law so to speak. Good on Co-Op ! The Co-Op here though used to show ' Top Tier ' fuel on the pump display but now it only says ' quality fuel ' . But who reads that or knows the difference ? Not many I suspect. Even though I have been a Co-Op member for 40 years I buy my fuel at Shell. Top Tier stickers on the new pumps installed a month ago but no mention of booze in the gas .
Co-op is still Top Tier certified. If I have a choice that's all I burn in all my vehicles. Nice rebate at the end of the year. Usually between 4 to 6 cents a litre here.
 

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