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1st Vette said:
No need for them to have the app . As long as they have location service turned on which most people do. That’s the beauty of it. Think of how long the battery in a watch lasts.
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Not the apple tag! They have to have that app turned on from all I've read.
 
Murray20c8 said:
Not the apple tag! They have to have that app turned on from all I've read.
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They work using the “ Find My “ functionality which is native on all Crapple devices. “ Find My “ is always active even when the device is powered off or at very low battery level. The battery is never really totally depleted for this reason even when the phone shuts down at the point when it says the battery level shows 1% or zero and stops working. There is no optional “ Find My “ app . This will explain it for you Murray .
Apple's Find My app can do more than locate a lost iPhone. Here's what you need to know
 
1st Vette said:
They work using the “ Find My “ functionality which is native on all Crapple devices. “ Find My “ is always active even when the device is powered off or at very low battery level. The battery is never really totally depleted for this reason even when the phone shuts down at the point when it says the battery level shows 1% or zero and stops working. There is no optional “ Find My “ app . This will explain it for you Murray .
Apple's Find My app can do more than locate a lost iPhone. Here's what you need to know
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That's to find the phone. The apple tags need software to find them. Same with Android anythings. If bluetooth, they need to pair and they do not do that automatically.
 
Murray20c8 said:
That's to find the phone. The apple tags need software to find them. Same with Android anythings. If bluetooth, they need to pair and they do not do that automatically.
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We will agree to disagree on this one I see . Although statistically Americans at least own an average of 4.4 Bluetooth devices and most have it enabled all of the time so only one has to be nearby . Here’s that stat if you’re interested.
www.bluetooth.com

Consumer Survey HighlightsNecessity of Bluetooth Technology | Bluetooth® Technology Website

For the Internet of Things (IoT) to function, it needs to be widely accessible. Not just by people, but device-to-device accessibility as well. That’s why, for the last five years…
www.bluetooth.com www.bluetooth.com
 
1st Vette said:
We will agree to disagree on this one I see . Although statistically Americans at least own an average of 4.4 Bluetooth devices and most have it enabled all of the time so only one has to be nearby . Here’s that stat if you’re interested.
www.bluetooth.com

Consumer Survey HighlightsNecessity of Bluetooth Technology | Bluetooth® Technology Website

For the Internet of Things (IoT) to function, it needs to be widely accessible. Not just by people, but device-to-device accessibility as well. That’s why, for the last five years…
www.bluetooth.com www.bluetooth.com
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NEVER! Your phone never connects to your car until it's paired ! NO new device connects automatically! NEVER! You can disagree all you want, but they do not! That would be a HUGE security risk! Anyone with a phone could connect to your car? no way!
 
Murray20c8 said:
NEVER! Your phone never connects to your car until it's paired ! NO new device connects automatically! NEVER! You can disagree all you want, but they do not! That would be a HUGE security risk! Anyone with a phone could connect to your car? no way!
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I thought we were talking about Apple Air Tags not the vehicle itself. Or “Tags “ which work with Android. Which has nothing to do with a phone connecting to a vehicle. These tags can be attached to anything from a suitcase to a bread machine. Or a pet or your keys etc etc . So they could be placed in a vehicle as well. Miscommunication happens. Sorry for any confusion I caused and I understand and agree with what you said about phones connecting to your vehicle without your input. I have been referring to something completely different. The consumer survey simply points out how many devices are out there that use Bluetooth. The article above from CNET explains how these devices work. Here it is again.
www.cnet.com

Apple's Find My app can do more than locate a lost iPhone. Here's what you need to know

As more devices integrate Apple's Find My technology, like AirTags, you'll be able to find almost anything.
www.cnet.com www.cnet.com
 
Air tags are wonderful. 5 years ago Southwest put my golf clubs on the wrong plane.
I got them 2 days later, but ever since I have thrown one in the golf bag and I know exactly
where my clubs are. So many of the staff have iphones and the signal is transferred to my
"find me" app without them realizing their phone sends the signal.

News story last year, a Kitchener couple came home from an overseas trip and their luggage
didn't arrive on their flight. They had an air tag in it and they knew it was in the Montreal airport. After 2 weeks
Air Canada claimed it was lost and gave them the insured value of $3000, but they knew it was in the airport.
two weeks later they see it moving down the 401 to Toronto where it stops and they track it to a storage depot
in Toronto. They go to the depot and peek in an open door and there is luggage stacked on racks floor to ceiling!
Thousands of bags, they called Air Canada who explained it wasn't their storage facility but belonged to the
company that buys all Air Canada's lost and found articles.
After days of chasing Air Canada they were escorted into the building where they found(thanks to the air tag) their bags
and retreived them. They didn't return the $3000 to Air Canada, and they didn't ask for it back.
Apparently Air Canada sells the items to this company who then go through every bag looking for valuables to sell and
make a profit.
I have a number of friends with high end cars who hide them inside in case it's stolen, however I understand there
is a scanner that the pros have to detect them in a car after they steal it and remove them.
But if your thief isn't sophisticated and is just joyriding you know where he is, and don't have to argue with Onstar.
 
Blu427 said:
Air tags are wonderful. 5 years ago Southwest put my golf clubs on the wrong plane.
I got them 2 days later, but ever since I have thrown one in the golf bag and I know exactly
where my clubs are. So many of the staff have iphones and the signal is transferred to my
"find me" app without them realizing their phone sends the signal.

News story last year, a Kitchener couple came home from an overseas trip and their luggage
didn't arrive on their flight. They had an air tag in it and they knew it was in the Montreal airport. After 2 weeks
Air Canada claimed it was lost and gave them the insured value of $3000, but they knew it was in the airport.
two weeks later they see it moving down the 401 to Toronto where it stops and they track it to a storage depot
in Toronto. They go to the depot and peek in an open door and there is luggage stacked on racks floor to ceiling!
Thousands of bags, they called Air Canada who explained it wasn't their storage facility but belonged to the
company that buys all Air Canada's lost and found articles.
After days of chasing Air Canada they were escorted into the building where they found(thanks to the air tag) their bags
and retreived them. They didn't return the $3000 to Air Canada, and they didn't ask for it back.
Apparently Air Canada sells the items to this company who then go through every bag looking for valuables to sell and
make a profit.
I have a number of friends with high end cars who hide them inside in case it's stolen, however I understand there
is a scanner that the pros have to detect them in a car after they steal it and remove them.
But if your thief isn't sophisticated and is just joyriding you know where he is, and don't have to argue with Onstar.
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Interesting. Air Canada lost our luggage on a flight back to Calgary from Columbia in 2019. We registered at the lost luggage counter immediately which was good as by the time we were done there was a line up of people behind us. Tree days later we got a call from a delivery company that he was on his way with our luggage. He got to our place about 5 oclock that evening and we had a brief chat. He works exclusively for Air Canada and has 5 employees full time that do nothing except deliver luggage that has been found to Air Canada customers. He added that his estimate is that Air Canada loses close to 50% of travelers luggage. Most is eventually found somewhere. From my place he was headed to Oyen which is 4 hours away.... I wonder if the other carriers are that bad? That's the second time AC has lost our luggage. We flew into Liberia, Costa Rica a while back and no luggage came with us. I joked with the AC girl there and mentioned that I really hoped our luggage didn't go to Liberia, Africa. There were nice about it and told us to buy anything we needed and they would reimburse. Our luggage showed up two days later but it was still a pain in the a$$. We travel now only with carry on and have yet to lose it... lol....
 
1st Vette said:
No need for them to have the app . As long as they have location service turned on which most people do. That’s the beauty of it. Think of how long the battery in a watch lasts.
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I have a garmin smart watch. The battery lasts about 4 days.
 
Blu427 said:
Air tags are wonderful. 5 years ago Southwest put my golf clubs on the wrong plane.
I got them 2 days later, but ever since I have thrown one in the golf bag and I know exactly
where my clubs are. So many of the staff have iphones and the signal is transferred to my
"find me" app without them realizing their phone sends the signal.

News story last year, a Kitchener couple came home from an overseas trip and their luggage
didn't arrive on their flight. They had an air tag in it and they knew it was in the Montreal airport. After 2 weeks
Air Canada claimed it was lost and gave them the insured value of $3000, but they knew it was in the airport.
two weeks later they see it moving down the 401 to Toronto where it stops and they track it to a storage depot
in Toronto. They go to the depot and peek in an open door and there is luggage stacked on racks floor to ceiling!
Thousands of bags, they called Air Canada who explained it wasn't their storage facility but belonged to the
company that buys all Air Canada's lost and found articles.
After days of chasing Air Canada they were escorted into the building where they found(thanks to the air tag) their bags
and retreived them. They didn't return the $3000 to Air Canada, and they didn't ask for it back.
Apparently Air Canada sells the items to this company who then go through every bag looking for valuables to sell and
make a profit.
I have a number of friends with high end cars who hide them inside in case it's stolen, however I understand there
is a scanner that the pros have to detect them in a car after they steal it and remove them.
But if your thief isn't sophisticated and is just joyriding you know where he is, and don't have to argue with Onstar.
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Yes , they work well and you got it exactly although not all understand how this feature functions but then again they don’t really have to to benefit from it. Pretty cool tech.
 

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