New Lobbying presented for another ban on firearms.

Yes, I do, but I am not the one telling other people that the government should confiscate their property and take away something that they enjoy doing just because I don't care about it and it doesn't have on impact on me personally. You aren't picking up what I am laying down. I give up.
No, I totally get it. I'm just saying there are some things worth giving up. We each have our own limit / lines. It's a conversation worth having. I'm no saint. I drive a sports car, I've gone fishing and I eat beef.
But, for example, I live on an acreage and need lawn equipment, but I sacrifice power for battery operated tools whenever I can. It's a small thing, but it is something. I recycle and keep my tractors in tune. We can't give up everything, but we can try to do our part in anyway we feel comfortable doing.

If one needs a weapon against coyotes or whatever, no problem. Want to shoot a gun at a firing range? No problem. Want to kill animals for food. No problem. I don't see a problem registering ones firearms. I don't see a problem being forced to take a Gun safety course and getting a license to own one. If a gun collector has assault weapons but keeps them safely stored. Maybe even without the firing mechanisms I see no issues.

We have to make sure our arguments are worth making. Like I said the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. That was more or less the argument for seatbelt laws. It's not the drivers life that matters as much as the ones we leave behind.

And I certainly respect your opinion so please don't let me stop you from sharing it.
 
This has been almost as good a read as reading about elections on here, a lot more civil though
I read the entire thread and aside from the gang up on Timbo there was some great stuff. Food for thought.
 
No, I totally get it. I'm just saying there are some things worth giving up. We each have our own limit / lines. It's a conversation worth having. I'm no saint. I drive a sports car, I've gone fishing and I eat beef.
But, for example, I live on an acreage and need lawn equipment, but I sacrifice power for battery operated tools whenever I can. It's a small thing, but it is something. I recycle and keep my tractors in tune. We can't give up everything, but we can try to do our part in anyway we feel comfortable doing.

If one needs a weapon against coyotes or whatever, no problem. Want to shoot a gun at a firing range? No problem. Want to kill animals for food. No problem. I don't see a problem registering ones firearms. I don't see a problem being forced to take a Gun safety course and getting a license to own one. If a gun collector has assault weapons but keeps them safely stored. Maybe even without the firing mechanisms I see no issues.

We have to make sure our arguments are worth making. Like I said the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. That was more or less the argument for seatbelt laws. It's not the drivers life that matters as much as the ones we leave behind.

And I certainly respect your opinion so please don't let me stop you from sharing it.
Hmmmmm.... for starters driving a sports car, fishing and eating beef does not exclude you from possible (although unlikely) sainthood.
In case you aren't aware, Canadian law already requires a Canadian Firearms Safety Course which in turn is part of the firearms license (PAL) that all Canadians wishing to acquire, own and/or use a firearm for sport purposes are required to have and carry with them. Much like a driver's license. A very thorough background check is performed before you are approved. There are a number of personal questions that are asked and required to be substantiated as well. The PAL license is also required to be presented when we buy ammunition for such firearms. To purchase a hunting license we are also required to pass a Hunter Education course. Passing an exam is necessary for both the firearms and the hunter course.
As far as "assault weapons" go, most have been banned for many years now. Specifically the full automatics, the ones that can be converted to full automatic and the magazines for all rifles that are capable of holding more than 5 rounds. The so called weapons they are banning this time around are mostly sporting guns but to be honest, the so called assault rifle does nothing any non banned hunting rifle won't do, but it looks like a military firearm to the people who know nothing about guns. The anti gun movement is strong in Ontario and Quebec and governments tend to listen to the majority population voters.
If government spent more time and energy on curtailing crime, adequately punishing criminals, and stopping the flow of illegal firearms into the country, they would achieve much more and better results than they will by making the law abiding sporting population look and feel like the criminals. That and improving mental health support would significantly make a difference as well as just over 75% of gun related deaths in Canada are actually suicides and not homicides at all.

No easy answers as much as we wish there was.
 
You need to be closer but it's just as easy if you are.
C'mon. Getting close alone makes it tougher.
There are so many more ways to kill with a gun.
Damn another drive by knife throwing! LOL
 
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Read about air guns in this infernal legislation. I have a BB pistol that is a restricted firearm now. It a damn co2 pistol!!! A toy! Do any of you understand what BS this law actually is? Enjoy your koolaid.
500 fps is the cutoff for restricted. What make is your BB pistol? There are very few I'm aware of faster than 500. Just curious.
 

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