Elections Canada - Please Read post Number 1

[WLGJ]

Snowboard instructor wasn’t he ? And actually neither was a politician before but at least Sock Boy was somehow elected by a whopping 31% of the voters……

Minority support but acted like a dictator.

 

[Murray20c8]

Minority support but acted like a dictator.

Seriously? C'mon. Did you even follow anything? The NDP held the Liberals hostage and got things they wanted. That's the way a minority government works. 2 parties agree on certain issues.

 

[WLGJ]

Seriously? C'mon. Did you even follow anything? The NDP held the Liberals hostage and got things they wanted. That's the way a minority government works. 2 parties agree on certain issues.

I don't trust or want the NDP either. I don't trust any of the parties or their heads but no way should we let the liberals continue.

 

[Murray20c8]

I don't trust or want the NDP either. I don't trust any of the parties or thei heads but no way should we let the liberals continue.

I'm with you not trusting politicians, but I hate to tell you that the Liberals have a good chance at getting a majority if it was held today.

 

[WLGJ]

I'm with you not trusting politicians, but I hate to tell you that the Liberals have a good chance at getting a majority if it was held today.

Sadly/angrily I agree. Imagine one person changed everything. I do not get it.

 

[Murray20c8]

Sadly/angrily I agree. Imagine one person changed everything. I do not get it.

That one person is PP. The more he talks the less people like him. He is not changing his tactics.

 

[1st Vette]

Seriously? C'mon. Did you even follow anything? The NDP held the Liberals hostage and got things they wanted. That's the way a minority government works. 2 parties agree on certain issues.

“ Certain issues “ sure but I’m not sure that the original concept or intent of this possibility when there is a minority government was to essentially create a majority government out of two parties. Perhaps on a case by case basis which was not what the electorate was subjected to. From March 2022 until September 2024 when the NDP supposedly stopped the sham the liberals were able to act as if they actually had a majority mandate with no opposition whatsoever. And this with the support of less than one in three voters. And yes , I am aware that this is allowed under our constitution as it currently stands, but that doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be revisited and amended to better reflect what a true democracy is.

 

[Murray20c8]

“ Certain issues “ sure but I’m not sure that the original concept or intent of this possibility when there is a minority government was to essentially create a majority government out of two parties.

That is exactly the intent. A majority of the people elected the minority government. The majority didn't want the the one that had the highest number of seats.

 

[WLGJ]

That one person is PP. The more he talks the less people like him. He is not changing his tactics.

Carney is just repeating Poilievre s promises. Carney is not doing anything but mimicking . Anyway they all suck. Carney is planning on keeping a system of carbon tax, that we will end up paying. Also wants to increase immigration and we all know what happened with that!

 

[1st Vette]

That one person is PP. The more he talks the less people like him. He is not changing his tactics. I'm with you not trusting politicians, but I hate to tell you that the Liberals have a good chance at getting a majority if it was held today.

I would suggest that it was two things. First Trudeau finally being pushed out and the other was the re election of Turdump . Don’t forget that the Liberals were , only 6 weeks ago , statistically being threatened with losing party status with 16 % support. The shift to the current polling results aren’t because of a sudden fear of PP . Certainly not that big of a shift after him consistently achieving approval ratings of more than double that of Trudeau. For almost two years at that.

 

[1st Vette]

That is exactly the intent. A majority of the people elected the minority government. The majority didn't want the the one that had the highest number of seats.

I would respectfully submit that the electorate didn’t elect two minority parties. If the vast majority had known what was coming after the last election there isn’t a snowballs chance in Death Valley that the Liberals would have been elected. Not a chance. lol. 31% does not constitute a majority by definition.

 

[DW Ruby]

I would suggest that it was two things. First Trudeau finally being pushed out and the other was the re election of Turdump . Don’t forget that the Liberals were , only 6 weeks ago , statistically being threatened with losing party status with 16 % support. The shift to the current polling results aren’t because of a sudden fear of PP . Certainly not that big of a shift after him consistently achieving approval ratings of more than double that of Trudeau. For almost two years at that.

In my opinion, had Donald kept his mouth shut, or been put in jail like he should have been, the Conservatives would be in.
It's sad, but the Liberals have a very good fighting chance right now because they are the least like Trump.

 

[Murray20c8]

Carney is just repeating Poilievre s promises. Carney is not doing anything but mimicking . Anyway they all suck. Carney is planning on keeping a system of carbon tax, that we will end up paying. Also wants to increase immigration and we all know what happened with that!

You are hearing everything a lot different than I am hearing! LOL.

 

[Murray20c8]

I would respectfully submit that the electorate didn’t elect two minority parties. If the vast majority had known what was coming after the last election there isn’t a snowballs chance in Death Valley that the Liberals would have been elected. Not a chance. lol. 31% does not constitute a majority by definition.

You can respectfully submit that, but I totally disagree with you. Most voters understand it and would prefer it over a majority that they don't want. I'm not sure if I've said this or not, but I actually like minority governments. Like I said they might not get the most done, but what they do get done is generally a benefit to all as it is a combination of ideas. Hashed out from 2 or three different points of view.

 

[Murray20c8]

I would suggest that it was two things. First Trudeau finally being pushed out and the other was the re election of Turdump . Don’t forget that the Liberals were , only 6 weeks ago , statistically being threatened with losing party status with 16 % support. The shift to the current polling results aren’t because of a sudden fear of PP . Certainly not that big of a shift after him consistently achieving approval ratings of more than double that of Trudeau. For almost two years at that.

Ya, you are right it is / was a combination of several things. One of which, some political strategists say, is his stubbornness to alter his position.

 

[1st Vette]

You can respectfully submit that, but I totally disagree with you. Most voters understand it and would prefer it over a majority that they don't want. I'm not sure if I've said this or not, but I actually like minority governments. Like I said they might not get the most done, but what they do get done is generally a benefit to all as it is a combination of ideas. Hashed out from 2 or three different points of view.

It certainly would be interesting to know how many of the 31% that voted Liberal last time wanted a minority outcome which essentially resulted in the country having a de facto NDP government for almost two years. There are numerous valid reasons why the NDP has never formed government federally .

 

[1st Vette]

Ya, you are right it is / was a combination of several things. One of which, some political strategists say, is his stubbornness to alter his position.

True that. I meant to ask if you have your power back on . I see a number still don’t.

 

[WLGJ]

You are hearing everything a lot different than I am hearing! LOL.

Could be but I also read it.

 

[Rruuff Day]

I would respectfully submit that the electorate didn’t elect two minority parties. If the vast majority had known what was coming after the last election there isn’t a snowballs chance in Death Valley that the Liberals would have been elected. Not a chance. lol. 31% does not constitute a majority by definition.

If the people didn't know what was coming after the first two Liberal terms, they should have pulled their heads out of their a$$es last election and looked around. Too many people can't see the forest for the trees and can't recognize what they do see for what it really is. Justin was voted the worst Prime Minister in 55 years and the rest of the Liberal party has a portion of that falling on their shoulders as well. Carney should have wiped the ministers slate clean and started over and I may have had a bit more respect for him. We need change. That's all there is to it. And yes. Any minority government will crawl into bed with whatever party they can convince to help them get bills passed. With any luck at all, the NDP will get slaughtered in this election to the point that they lose party status and disappear. The only thing they are good for is splitting votes and if Jagmeet had his and the NDP's way of governing, Canada's economics would be flushed down the toilet even further.

 

[Rruuff Day]

It certainly would be interesting to know how many of the 31% that voted Liberal last time wanted a minority outcome which essentially resulted in the country having a de facto NDP government for almost two years. There are numerous valid reasons why the NDP has never formed government federally .

And they never will. If BC would smarten up, the NDP would lose party status ... We can only wish....