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<blockquote data-quote="AllFlash" data-source="post: 68842" data-attributes="member: 2168"><p>One is politics that you cannot control. The other is a right you have NOT to be recorded without judicial authorization. In Canada, there must be reasonable grounds and authorization to record someone specific to establishing their wrong-doing and it is a right that we all have. As much as we hate it when we are honest, law abiding citizens, opening that door puts us all at risk for contrevening the law, even when it is a normal part of day-to-day living.</p><p></p><p>Examples...</p><p></p><p>1. In some countries in Europe (Croatia for one), vehicles have punch cards that are locked from the operator and only punch to the highest speed driven. A police officer stops the car, pulls the card and issues the driver with a speeding ticket for that vehicle speed....regardless of when and where it occured and who was driving. This may be dated info as I havent been to Croatia in a few years....but let's look at the Canadian side of things.</p><p></p><p>2. Vehicles have a black box that records only the few seconds prior to an accident and can be examined. Police need a warrant for this and it is still very seldom used in court because of legalities all around. Does the box belong to the manufacturer of the auto or the owner?</p><p></p><p>So, let's take this thought and now allow the 100% recording of our driving, making us subject to stop (without reason) at any time and examination of those recordings for charges...</p><p></p><p>The concept is EXACTLY the same as we have now moved the Charter of Rights over just a bit to enable the recording of a person for an offence, without any thought, proof or grounds that they have the intent to commit an offence. </p><p></p><p>Just a thought... Think about this the next time you are driving down the street and over the speed limit...by as little as 1Km/h. Or wait... we could now carry this further.... vehicles that don't go over the speed limit...or vehicles that don't start until a seatbelt is fastened... eheh</p><p></p><p>Having said this... if GM would never have mentioned this as Valet mode, there would have never been any difficulty whatsoever. There is nothing illegal with having audio and video recording ability in a new car. Heck, I'de love to see the expressions on my passengers face in the new Z06...nothing illegal... There is no intent to record to record an illegal act. There is no fishing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AllFlash, post: 68842, member: 2168"] One is politics that you cannot control. The other is a right you have NOT to be recorded without judicial authorization. In Canada, there must be reasonable grounds and authorization to record someone specific to establishing their wrong-doing and it is a right that we all have. As much as we hate it when we are honest, law abiding citizens, opening that door puts us all at risk for contrevening the law, even when it is a normal part of day-to-day living. Examples... 1. In some countries in Europe (Croatia for one), vehicles have punch cards that are locked from the operator and only punch to the highest speed driven. A police officer stops the car, pulls the card and issues the driver with a speeding ticket for that vehicle speed....regardless of when and where it occured and who was driving. This may be dated info as I havent been to Croatia in a few years....but let's look at the Canadian side of things. 2. Vehicles have a black box that records only the few seconds prior to an accident and can be examined. Police need a warrant for this and it is still very seldom used in court because of legalities all around. Does the box belong to the manufacturer of the auto or the owner? So, let's take this thought and now allow the 100% recording of our driving, making us subject to stop (without reason) at any time and examination of those recordings for charges... The concept is EXACTLY the same as we have now moved the Charter of Rights over just a bit to enable the recording of a person for an offence, without any thought, proof or grounds that they have the intent to commit an offence. Just a thought... Think about this the next time you are driving down the street and over the speed limit...by as little as 1Km/h. Or wait... we could now carry this further.... vehicles that don't go over the speed limit...or vehicles that don't start until a seatbelt is fastened... eheh Having said this... if GM would never have mentioned this as Valet mode, there would have never been any difficulty whatsoever. There is nothing illegal with having audio and video recording ability in a new car. Heck, I'de love to see the expressions on my passengers face in the new Z06...nothing illegal... There is no intent to record to record an illegal act. There is no fishing. [/QUOTE]
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