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<blockquote data-quote="KLinNBC" data-source="post: 257425" data-attributes="member: 6779"><p>And you whine about creating division? At no point have I said anything about forcing people to get vaccinated. I totally support your right to not. I also totally support society's right to be protected from a greater threat and therefore the need to isolate or restrict unvaccinated people. You're confusing freedom with responsibility. And no freedom is absolute, I support freedom of speech but totally agree with the laws that punish and/or prevent those that would scream lies and spread hate. I would fight against anyone holding you down and sticking you with anything but have no problem with making you, as you have erroneously preached here, to stay home. </p><p></p><p>You have yet to understand that being a spreader is not the issue but continue to state, falsely, that the vaccinated are bigger spreaders than the unvaccinated. Or that you, as a result of a negative test, are not a spreader. Explain that as others have asked. </p><p></p><p>In any vaccinated population many will have an immune response strong and fast enough to eradicate the target infection such that they will not reach a level to be contagious. The jury is out on the percentage any of the vaccines will achieve this for Covid. But it's likely a majority. Witness the percentage of unvaccinated people filling up hospitals and it's a no-brainer to understand that unvaccinated people with the established fact of higher, deeper infection are super spreaders. So you're just spouting illogical nonsense to justify your behaviour and desire to do as you wish regardless of consequence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KLinNBC, post: 257425, member: 6779"] And you whine about creating division? At no point have I said anything about forcing people to get vaccinated. I totally support your right to not. I also totally support society's right to be protected from a greater threat and therefore the need to isolate or restrict unvaccinated people. You're confusing freedom with responsibility. And no freedom is absolute, I support freedom of speech but totally agree with the laws that punish and/or prevent those that would scream lies and spread hate. I would fight against anyone holding you down and sticking you with anything but have no problem with making you, as you have erroneously preached here, to stay home. You have yet to understand that being a spreader is not the issue but continue to state, falsely, that the vaccinated are bigger spreaders than the unvaccinated. Or that you, as a result of a negative test, are not a spreader. Explain that as others have asked. In any vaccinated population many will have an immune response strong and fast enough to eradicate the target infection such that they will not reach a level to be contagious. The jury is out on the percentage any of the vaccines will achieve this for Covid. But it's likely a majority. Witness the percentage of unvaccinated people filling up hospitals and it's a no-brainer to understand that unvaccinated people with the established fact of higher, deeper infection are super spreaders. So you're just spouting illogical nonsense to justify your behaviour and desire to do as you wish regardless of consequence. [/QUOTE]
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