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<blockquote data-quote="KLinNBC" data-source="post: 257413" data-attributes="member: 6779"><p>Infuenza and pneumonia together (only way we keep this statistic) killed 6893 Canadians in 2019, most estimates place actual flu deaths at about 1100 out of that. Highest year since we began keeping records was 2018 with 8511. Further, we have a medical system that deals with that with no overload/breakdown year after year. Yes, in large part due to the people who get flu shots! You're making the case for vaccines!</p><p></p><p>The vaccinated ARE CERTAINLY spreading the virus, why can't you understand that stopping spread is NOT the goal. In fact we NEED widespread dissemination of the virus in the long run it's the only way to return to "normal". Once everybody or close to is vaccinated Covid is no longer a problem. We are not trying to stop people from getting infected, we are trying to stop people from getting really sick and requiring hospitalization.</p><p></p><p>Over 90% of current hospitalizations are unvaccinated. FACT. Has it occurred to you that we could just go back to normal, open everything up to everyone, end all restrictions and masking etc. and have no problems if we simply denied hospital care to the unvaccinated? That was the point of the previous post showing the funeral home ad advising against vaccination: they'd love the increase in business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KLinNBC, post: 257413, member: 6779"] Infuenza and pneumonia together (only way we keep this statistic) killed 6893 Canadians in 2019, most estimates place actual flu deaths at about 1100 out of that. Highest year since we began keeping records was 2018 with 8511. Further, we have a medical system that deals with that with no overload/breakdown year after year. Yes, in large part due to the people who get flu shots! You're making the case for vaccines! The vaccinated ARE CERTAINLY spreading the virus, why can't you understand that stopping spread is NOT the goal. In fact we NEED widespread dissemination of the virus in the long run it's the only way to return to "normal". Once everybody or close to is vaccinated Covid is no longer a problem. We are not trying to stop people from getting infected, we are trying to stop people from getting really sick and requiring hospitalization. Over 90% of current hospitalizations are unvaccinated. FACT. Has it occurred to you that we could just go back to normal, open everything up to everyone, end all restrictions and masking etc. and have no problems if we simply denied hospital care to the unvaccinated? That was the point of the previous post showing the funeral home ad advising against vaccination: they'd love the increase in business. [/QUOTE]
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