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Does anyone else prefer the look of the narrow body Stingray vs the wide body GS/Z06?
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<blockquote data-quote="Spectre" data-source="post: 97021" data-attributes="member: 3167"><p>My automotive Venn diagrams change constantly, but they typically look something like this:</p><p></p><p>1. Power delivery</p><p>2. Handling</p><p>3. Long distance comfort</p><p></p><p>The goal, for me, anyway, is to have a car that, while still a sports car, is as different as possible in experience from my 981.</p><p></p><p>"1" is easy, because any C7 will have a large displacement, rumbly front engined V8 versus the much less torquey (but more top end happy) siren wail that is the flat six located amidships in my car. My 981's chief weaknesses are a) when I am in 6th gear on a two lane road, stuck behind one of those $@&*ing "Canadream" rental motorhomes, and spy finally get a passing opportunity, I need to downshift to at least 4th (sometimes 3rd) to ensure the the pass is both swift and safe, and b) cruising speeds at around 120-130 kph in 6th gear means the engine is turning around 3100-3400 rpm, while although not loud, can occasionally become mildly tiresome, and c) the 9A1 flat six in my car sounds best at WOT, and the closer to 8 grand, the better the noise. Outside of 1st gear and flat out passing maneuvers, it is not an easy thing to replicate. I know the C7's LT1 or LT4 would both provide a very different experience on all those fronts.</p><p></p><p>"2" demands my C7 have the Z51 package at a minimum. I did my own test drives of Stingrays with and without it, on the same back roads (both had MSRC), and I could feel the difference in weight transfer fairly easily. I'm not knocking the standard suspension as I know it can pull 1.0 g on a skidpad, but that doesn't mean it feels good (to me) doing it. I think saying I "need" anything above the Z51 from a handling perspective is kidding myself, seeing as how I'm just some average back road enthusiast, but the idea of the GS's better overall grip means I could probably lay on the throttle sooner in bends, which would possibly equal more fun. This is where the 981 shines. It's mid engined, and it has relatively small amounts of torque, meaning I can pretty much mat the throttle exiting any turn in any gear (save 1st) and the car just stays planted while the engine screams. I don't need my C7 to handle as well as my 981, but I know I'd kick myself if I didn't choose one that can at least offer near as much back road jollies as possible. This is also why ai'd rather fork over for the integrated Z51 pack straight off, rather than attempt to suit a non-Z51's suspension to my needs.</p><p></p><p>"3" All C7s have a longer wheelbase than my car, which straight off helps to improve ride quality and long distance comfort. My test drives show that that a Z51 with MRSC in sport is reasonably comfortable, but I still like the idea of the mag ride's flexibility to make things even more comfy if I happen on an expressway. I haven't driven a Z06, but I've been led to believe that all settings being equal, it will ride a bit more rough than a Z51 car. Whether or not this applies to the GS as well, I don't know (I believe it has different spring rates than the Z06). My 981 has the PASM suspension option, so it rides relatively well, but it's decidedly narrower/less spacious inside than the Corvette, something both my wife and I noticed immediately. And again, highway cruising at 3000-plus rpms detracts from the comfort.</p><p></p><p>All the above really does is assure me I want something with at least Z51 and MRSC. It didn't help much for distinguishing between a Stingray, a GS, or a Z06. Maybe I need more Venn diagrams. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Purchasing a Corvette, ANY sports car should be an emotional decision: i.e. I want one because I want one. And I may choose a given model purely on emotion too, but given I'll be unlikely to test drive a GS or a Z, this process helps me (maybe hurts me) in figuring it out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spectre, post: 97021, member: 3167"] My automotive Venn diagrams change constantly, but they typically look something like this: 1. Power delivery 2. Handling 3. Long distance comfort The goal, for me, anyway, is to have a car that, while still a sports car, is as different as possible in experience from my 981. "1" is easy, because any C7 will have a large displacement, rumbly front engined V8 versus the much less torquey (but more top end happy) siren wail that is the flat six located amidships in my car. My 981's chief weaknesses are a) when I am in 6th gear on a two lane road, stuck behind one of those $@&*ing "Canadream" rental motorhomes, and spy finally get a passing opportunity, I need to downshift to at least 4th (sometimes 3rd) to ensure the the pass is both swift and safe, and b) cruising speeds at around 120-130 kph in 6th gear means the engine is turning around 3100-3400 rpm, while although not loud, can occasionally become mildly tiresome, and c) the 9A1 flat six in my car sounds best at WOT, and the closer to 8 grand, the better the noise. Outside of 1st gear and flat out passing maneuvers, it is not an easy thing to replicate. I know the C7's LT1 or LT4 would both provide a very different experience on all those fronts. "2" demands my C7 have the Z51 package at a minimum. I did my own test drives of Stingrays with and without it, on the same back roads (both had MSRC), and I could feel the difference in weight transfer fairly easily. I'm not knocking the standard suspension as I know it can pull 1.0 g on a skidpad, but that doesn't mean it feels good (to me) doing it. I think saying I "need" anything above the Z51 from a handling perspective is kidding myself, seeing as how I'm just some average back road enthusiast, but the idea of the GS's better overall grip means I could probably lay on the throttle sooner in bends, which would possibly equal more fun. This is where the 981 shines. It's mid engined, and it has relatively small amounts of torque, meaning I can pretty much mat the throttle exiting any turn in any gear (save 1st) and the car just stays planted while the engine screams. I don't need my C7 to handle as well as my 981, but I know I'd kick myself if I didn't choose one that can at least offer near as much back road jollies as possible. This is also why ai'd rather fork over for the integrated Z51 pack straight off, rather than attempt to suit a non-Z51's suspension to my needs. "3" All C7s have a longer wheelbase than my car, which straight off helps to improve ride quality and long distance comfort. My test drives show that that a Z51 with MRSC in sport is reasonably comfortable, but I still like the idea of the mag ride's flexibility to make things even more comfy if I happen on an expressway. I haven't driven a Z06, but I've been led to believe that all settings being equal, it will ride a bit more rough than a Z51 car. Whether or not this applies to the GS as well, I don't know (I believe it has different spring rates than the Z06). My 981 has the PASM suspension option, so it rides relatively well, but it's decidedly narrower/less spacious inside than the Corvette, something both my wife and I noticed immediately. And again, highway cruising at 3000-plus rpms detracts from the comfort. All the above really does is assure me I want something with at least Z51 and MRSC. It didn't help much for distinguishing between a Stingray, a GS, or a Z06. Maybe I need more Venn diagrams. :D Purchasing a Corvette, ANY sports car should be an emotional decision: i.e. I want one because I want one. And I may choose a given model purely on emotion too, but given I'll be unlikely to test drive a GS or a Z, this process helps me (maybe hurts me) in figuring it out. [/QUOTE]
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