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Amen to all that is so well said here. Wonderfully stated comments. Makes one very very glad to live in and be proud of Canada. Since the shooting, CNN has been covering every aspect of it for 24 hours a day, and now that that part has subsided they have taken to reliving and reanallyzing all past shootings as well. But after all is said there will still be nothing done.
 
This was written, yesterday, by a 25-year-old single male resident of southern Alabama.

"....the second amendment is our last defense against going the way of $hitholes like England or Canada."

Thought I should remind you guys to flush more often. We gotta clean up around here. :rofl:

Now, I don't usually take a whole lot of notice of what angry, under-educated rednecks have to say. Sadly, however, there's a nation full of them on our southern border, and they're armed to the teeth. They're taking numbers for a chance to even get to the counter in their crazy-busy gun stores now.

I figure that if we're pointing fingers at who may be behind all these shootings, and the buying-frenzy it always seems to engender, maybe someone should be looking at the gun manufacturers and retailers. They can't make them or sell them fast enough to keep up with the wild demand. It's like a drug addiction. Threaten to clamp down on supply, and the addicts go completely nuts.

God, how many guns do these folks need? :banghead:
 
I really enjoy reading the Canadian perspective I just wish it was under different circumstances .
I have friends on both sides of the issue so i'll post these US stats provided by the Fed's
for 2011 .12,664 murders ,8543 by guns ,of the remaining 4081 two thirds we're by knife involvement .There we're ten times more murders committed by kitchen knifes then assault weapons .
11,000 deaths by drunk drivers ,38,000 traffic deaths ,98,000 medical malpractice .

It was also mentioned to me that the young killed had spent weeks planning the hideous crime. He had also made attempts to buy guns and weapons but under Connecticut law he was not eligible. Connecticut also has some of the most rigid gun laws in the US. One law requires that hand guns have trigger locks and be in a gun safe.

California had a ban on assault weapons for about four years but it had no effect .

There may be token changes in the gun laws but it will take a hundred years to get significant changes. Guns are entrenched in the culture to deeply .

Don't consider the above stats to be my approval in any way of assault weapons ,I'm not in favor at all .
 
True enough. And this isn't a reflection on you or anyone in particular because I do it but, to rationalize that only 8,500 murders happen because of guns where 98,000 people die due to medical malpractice isn't really a fair comparison and they have no correlation. It just makes it sound not as bad and is a deceitful tool to manipulate a perspective. I don't think all 8,500 people would be here today if there was gun control, lots of other ways to murder people, but maybe it would stop the mass shootings as least.
 
Riley P said:
. I don't think all 8,500 people would be here today if there was gun control, lots of other ways to murder people, but maybe it would stop the mass shootings as least.
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The issue will be that if a law was passed today that anyone possessing an assault weapon at the end of January could get life in prison .Criminals wouldn't turn any in and law biding citizens might turn in a few but the rest would go under the mattress .It's just the mentality.

I'm sure that there will be laws passed this year restricting sales to some degree .

I enjoy the Canadian point of view,again I just wish it wasn't over the slaughter of Children.5 funerals today ,no excuse ,I tear up every time I see the photos of the kids.
 
We've all heard the claims from those who don't want any restrictions on guns. They say that if you make guns illegal, only criminals will have guns.

Well, let's examine what happened in Newtown, CT. The perpetrator used his mother's "legal" guns to perform his outrageous end-of-life massacre of all those five and six-year-old children and teachers....not to mention the owner of those "legal" guns - his own mother.

Perhaps if his mother hadn't been able to legally purchase assault weapons and handguns, one or two people may have died during a knife attack....rather than 26 being sprayed by rapid fire, high-velocity weapons.

And, isn't it shocking that a woman with such poor judgment skills (those weapons in a house with a son who she was sending to a mental institution????) was able to purchase guns legally? Madness. C'mon America. Get a freakin' grip.

If every 2nd house on the streets of America didn't have "legal" weapons up the wazoo, criminals wouldn't so easily come into the possession of these "legal" weapons. Vast numbers of "legal" weapons in a great many American homes simply presents an ease-of-access scenario for the bad guys.

And, on a related note, who will the next child be who dies while playing with improperly stored family weapons? Or, who is the next spouse to die after an eyeball-bulging, screaming spousal argument, when emotion gets the better of sanity? Who knows, but it WILL be some child or some spouse. It probably happened today. It happens so frequently that it's not even news anymore unless the number of victims climbs above five or six.

Madness. Absolute madness. In the future, Americans will look back on these times and wonder what took them so long to stop the madness.
 
Better restrictions on all weapons and banning certain "mass destruction" weapons has to have a positive effect.

The numbers bother me more and more: Over 300,000,000 weapons in circulation????
Those numbers have to come down. I'm hoping that the rumoured government program to buy back guns comes to fruition.

C.
 
CCO said:
Better restrictions on all weapons and banning certain "mass destruction" weapons has to have a positive effect.

The numbers bother me more and more: Over 300,000,000 weapons in circulation????
Those numbers have to come down. I'm hoping that the rumoured government program to buy back guns comes to fruition.

C.
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It will have a positive effect and I'm in favor ,every little bit will help (hopefully)
 
buckhorn76 said:
nobody questions bans on nerve gas.
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Good point. With the 2nd Amendment, why stop at assault weapons? Why not bazookas? How about hand grenades? Flame throwers? Howitzers? Sherman tanks? Cruise missiles?

Why stop at assault weapons? Shouldn't NRA members be able to own suitcase nukes if they can get their hands on them? That's freedom, baby! :rofl:

If you think I'm going overboard, you haven't talked to some of the guys I've talked to. :eek:
 
What also disturbs me is the Social Security Administration purchasing 170,000 hollow point rounds .It's a little bit "old news" but it makes a lot of folks wonder . Personally I do as much SSA business on line after finding out about the ammo purchase .It would be my luck to get an attendant that was having a bad day and forgot to take their meds .

Another concern about the Government handling gun control is that no one can name ANYTHING the US Government does right .The shear mention of gun control has driven gun sales to an all time high.

Everything is so political and polarized with not an speck of common sense .
 
CCO said:
Our government has had a little experience with gun control and registration. Perhaps they'd like a few tips from us.








:rofl:

C.
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It's kinda like this 200 years ago the US would never except help based on pride ,today it might be arrogance .It's not all bad there are still some very good real people .Some could even find Canada on a map :D

What would be nice is if you folks turned up your thermostat a little or stop breathin cold air on us .
 
CCO said:
Our government has had a little experience with gun control and registration. Perhaps they'd like a few tips from us.

:rofl:

C.
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Written with tongue in cheek, Elf :D

Elf said:
Tell me how does Canadian gun laws work ,obviously it has worked fairly well for ya .Just brief me a little .
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About our attempt at gun control/registry: As our Gunny Highway (Clint) said in Heartbreak Ridge -- "it was a Cluster F*ck".



.......and a damned expensive one at that.


C.
 
here in canada the only way to obtain a military type weapon is illegally. handguns have had continually tightening restrictions since the 1930's. special permits are required to purchase handguns and only for bona fide approved collectors. a special permit is needed to transport a handgun from your residence to a registered gun club. storage of handguns is encouraged to be done at the gun club. handguns stored at home must be done so in a specific manner and storage is subject to random inspection by the R.C.M.P. hunting rifles and shotguns as well as muzzle loaders need a firearms aquisition certificate and a hunter safety course must be taken in order to obtain a hunting license.
 
buckhorn76 : I can see that your country could get to where it is since it started in 1930

that's about 82 years of reform and it probably works reasonably well for you and I'm glad.

I think in all honesty that there is some support for gun control here also but it'll creep along for at least 82 years or more like 182 (I'll let ya know).A friend was sayin that we have three times more gun stores then McDonald's .

So how did the Government get rid of all the handguns and automatics that we're in private hands ? And in reality did the bad guy's keep their's ?
 
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