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Corvette
C8 E-Ray
2024 E-RAY Prices and Order Guide
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<blockquote data-quote="gone" data-source="post: 310630" data-attributes="member: 5899"><p>I waged this internal debate about the E-Ray versus the Z06 and which one to buy, ever since the E-Ray was announced. I finally came down firmly on the Z06 side and gave away my #1 spot on my dealer's E-Ray list, no doubt swayed by attending the April 2022 Bash in Bowling Green which then focused on the Z06 with the majority of its presentations. So take that into account while reading my following comments, which you can reject as coming from someone who has "drank the Z06 Kool-Aid". In other words, my apologies in advance to Forum members like DenisC8.</p><p></p><p>Yes the E-Ray is AWD and hopefully the regenerative characteristics for the battery, will maintain its charge whenever needed and maintain the AWD. Yes the added torque is there with the additional electronic "assist" as with anything automotive and electric powered. Same comments apply for this added torque, in terms of the battery maintaining sufficient charge to support that. It's touted by GM as being the first truly year-round Corvette with its AWD but like any battery-propulsion vehicle, I question how efficiently the battery will function in colder temperatures. The stealth mode is a debatable benefit IMO, since very few will likely need/use it...most of us (like all current C8 Stingray owners) haven't been evicted from our houses due to loud start-ups...and for me, some of my neighbours actually enjoy the sound when I start my C8. And if your neighbours think the Stingray is too loud, they haven't heard the C8 Z06 start up yet, nor are they used to the sound of a 2-stroke straight-piped Harley...</p><p></p><p>BUT if we're speaking only of $$:</p><p></p><p>-the E-Ray is surprisingly close to the Z06 in pricing. Like many others, I wasn't expecting that and thought it would be priced in the middle of the Stingray and Z06 prices. </p><p></p><p>-how is the Z06 pricing justified:</p><p></p><p>a) a unique ground-up designed LT6 engine, that's "the most powerful naturally aspirated motor, <u>ever</u> <u>made</u>". As with any performance vehicle, the engine is the heart of it and accounts for most of the price</p><p>b) a Ferrari-like exhaust note from Ferrari-years long gone by and wistfully remembered, that was years in the making and came about after the original exhaust system was scrapped entirely to create the marvellous Z06 sound symphony we have today</p><p>c) a new wider body (designed for the Z06)</p><p>d) wider and newly designed tires (summer and "track"), specifically for the Z06</p><p>e) carbon fiber rims to fit the Z06, as an option, with special heat-shedding properties</p><p>f) carbon ceramic brakes, designed for the Z06, as an option</p><p>g) the list goes on, but the main reasons are above</p><p></p><p>-how is the E-Ray price justified:</p><p></p><p>a) a new electric motor and accompanying software, to "marry" the electric and ICE power for this hybrid powertrain. Not IMO "ground-breaking" electric technology or certainly I don't rank it anywhere near the LT6. Note: the E-Ray has an all-electric range of less than 5 miles and can't go over 45 mph</p><p>b) the "stealth mode" feature. You have my comments above. It also has the "shuttle mode" which is another feature with very limited applications (ie. relocating within your garage)</p><p>c) newly designed tires (all-season) that IMO take their cue from the Z06 tires (same width; fit on the Z06)</p><p>d) the same wide body developed for the Z06</p><p>e) the same LT2 engine, now in the C8 Stingray</p><p>f) the same carbon fiber rims, available as an option, just like the Z06</p><p>g) same carbon ceramic brakes as the Z06, but now mandatory and not an option</p><p></p><p>For "bang-for-your-buck" I just don't see a comparison (sorry). GM spent millions on the Z06 development and needs to recoup its investment, so priced it accordingly. I think the E-Ray is woefully over-priced for what you get, especially since it has borrowed extensively from the Z06. IMO GM is hoping the market accepts the E-Ray's high price, due to the AWD capability and increased torque. Its touted torque increase will "soon" be eclipsed by the fully EV Corvette models (SUV and sports car) and then its only benefit compared to the EV Corvette, IMO, will be that it has "natural sound" from its LT2 exhaust, which will never compare to what the Z06 has. People also have to decide if they like the "jet-engine whine" noise the E-Ray has from the electric motor (piped in?), which can be heard in the YouTube videos. Many of those future EV Corvettes will be AWD. Long-term, I think the Z06 will remain popular as one of the last naturally-aspirated power-plants, whereas the E-Ray could blend in with the future EV's that we all know are coming. All just my opinion, of course, but something I offer to others who might be experiencing the same "E-Ray versus Z06 debate" which is easy to understand when their pricing is fairly similar. And yes, I say this knowing the E-Ray includes the carbon fiber brakes, so the E-Ray price reflects that. Like any opinions expressed while we're all living through the events in question, the "truth" will be revealed in the fullness of time. Whatever your perspective, I think we can all agree that we're living in interesting automotive times, with all the new development/technology occurring amongst the different vehicle manufacturers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gone, post: 310630, member: 5899"] I waged this internal debate about the E-Ray versus the Z06 and which one to buy, ever since the E-Ray was announced. I finally came down firmly on the Z06 side and gave away my #1 spot on my dealer's E-Ray list, no doubt swayed by attending the April 2022 Bash in Bowling Green which then focused on the Z06 with the majority of its presentations. So take that into account while reading my following comments, which you can reject as coming from someone who has "drank the Z06 Kool-Aid". In other words, my apologies in advance to Forum members like DenisC8. Yes the E-Ray is AWD and hopefully the regenerative characteristics for the battery, will maintain its charge whenever needed and maintain the AWD. Yes the added torque is there with the additional electronic "assist" as with anything automotive and electric powered. Same comments apply for this added torque, in terms of the battery maintaining sufficient charge to support that. It's touted by GM as being the first truly year-round Corvette with its AWD but like any battery-propulsion vehicle, I question how efficiently the battery will function in colder temperatures. The stealth mode is a debatable benefit IMO, since very few will likely need/use it...most of us (like all current C8 Stingray owners) haven't been evicted from our houses due to loud start-ups...and for me, some of my neighbours actually enjoy the sound when I start my C8. And if your neighbours think the Stingray is too loud, they haven't heard the C8 Z06 start up yet, nor are they used to the sound of a 2-stroke straight-piped Harley... BUT if we're speaking only of $$: -the E-Ray is surprisingly close to the Z06 in pricing. Like many others, I wasn't expecting that and thought it would be priced in the middle of the Stingray and Z06 prices. -how is the Z06 pricing justified: a) a unique ground-up designed LT6 engine, that's "the most powerful naturally aspirated motor, [U]ever[/U] [U]made[/U]". As with any performance vehicle, the engine is the heart of it and accounts for most of the price b) a Ferrari-like exhaust note from Ferrari-years long gone by and wistfully remembered, that was years in the making and came about after the original exhaust system was scrapped entirely to create the marvellous Z06 sound symphony we have today c) a new wider body (designed for the Z06) d) wider and newly designed tires (summer and "track"), specifically for the Z06 e) carbon fiber rims to fit the Z06, as an option, with special heat-shedding properties f) carbon ceramic brakes, designed for the Z06, as an option g) the list goes on, but the main reasons are above -how is the E-Ray price justified: a) a new electric motor and accompanying software, to "marry" the electric and ICE power for this hybrid powertrain. Not IMO "ground-breaking" electric technology or certainly I don't rank it anywhere near the LT6. Note: the E-Ray has an all-electric range of less than 5 miles and can't go over 45 mph b) the "stealth mode" feature. You have my comments above. It also has the "shuttle mode" which is another feature with very limited applications (ie. relocating within your garage) c) newly designed tires (all-season) that IMO take their cue from the Z06 tires (same width; fit on the Z06) d) the same wide body developed for the Z06 e) the same LT2 engine, now in the C8 Stingray f) the same carbon fiber rims, available as an option, just like the Z06 g) same carbon ceramic brakes as the Z06, but now mandatory and not an option For "bang-for-your-buck" I just don't see a comparison (sorry). GM spent millions on the Z06 development and needs to recoup its investment, so priced it accordingly. I think the E-Ray is woefully over-priced for what you get, especially since it has borrowed extensively from the Z06. IMO GM is hoping the market accepts the E-Ray's high price, due to the AWD capability and increased torque. Its touted torque increase will "soon" be eclipsed by the fully EV Corvette models (SUV and sports car) and then its only benefit compared to the EV Corvette, IMO, will be that it has "natural sound" from its LT2 exhaust, which will never compare to what the Z06 has. People also have to decide if they like the "jet-engine whine" noise the E-Ray has from the electric motor (piped in?), which can be heard in the YouTube videos. Many of those future EV Corvettes will be AWD. Long-term, I think the Z06 will remain popular as one of the last naturally-aspirated power-plants, whereas the E-Ray could blend in with the future EV's that we all know are coming. All just my opinion, of course, but something I offer to others who might be experiencing the same "E-Ray versus Z06 debate" which is easy to understand when their pricing is fairly similar. And yes, I say this knowing the E-Ray includes the carbon fiber brakes, so the E-Ray price reflects that. Like any opinions expressed while we're all living through the events in question, the "truth" will be revealed in the fullness of time. Whatever your perspective, I think we can all agree that we're living in interesting automotive times, with all the new development/technology occurring amongst the different vehicle manufacturers. [/QUOTE]
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