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For those lucky ones who managed to secure the 5vm codename: for visible carbon fibre splitter and side skirts for a whopping $4850.00: and those that are disappointed in hearing that GM has issues with a vendor who manufactures these parts, that the parts are not attainable due to issues beyond GM control. Shame on you GM you hade over 12 months if not longer to get all your vendors to comply to quality and manufacturing issues. An item that carries a high price tag with a whopping profit to boot, is inexcusable. What other issues are there likely to surface now that production of the C8 is officially started. Very poor managerial control; if top management doesn't show due diligence then why should the line worker!
 
For those lucky ones who managed to secure the 5vm codename: for visible carbon fibre splitter and side skirts for a whopping $4850.00: and those that are disappointed in hearing that GM has issues with a vendor who manufactures these parts, that the parts are not attainable due to issues beyond GM control. Shame on you GM you hade over 12 months if not longer to get all your vendors to comply to quality and manufacturing issues. An item that carries a high price tag with a whopping profit to boot, is inexcusable. What other issues are there likely to surface now that production of the C8 is officially started. Very poor managerial control; if top management doesn't show due diligence then why should the line worker!

Unfortunately that is very problematic in today's workforce attitude. "Why should I work any harder or better that the lowest common denominator"... Few want to contribute any more than is the absolute minimum but they all want the big bucks pay cheque... Too many companies accept a warm body as opposed to a work ethic.
There's my morning's 5 cents worth... lol...
 
Unfortunately that is very problematic in today's workforce attitude. "Why should I work any harder or better that the lowest common denominator"... Few want to contribute any more than is the absolute minimum but they all want the big bucks pay cheque... Too many companies accept a warm body as opposed to a work ethic.
There's my morning's 5 cents worth... lol...
So. You know that the assembly line worker has X amount of time, right?
Let's say the line is moving at 60 units / hour. Employees on the line (in general) are tasked with 59 seconds of work. That leaves 1 second to obtain stock (and whatever else is required) for the next unit rolling at you.
Usually, approximately 3 months after 'job 1' (1st production unit) line workers are 'timed'. The motive now is....give these poor slobs 70 seconds worth of work to do in 60 seconds.
You see.....there were 36 workers in a partiular section of the line (a zone). Mgmt wants only 30 employees in said zone.
Three months later......rince and repeat.
It's not usually a matter of care, or caring....it's a matter of finishing the job at hand, with not enough time.
After hours / days / months / years of the same ole same ole, how can a line worker be expected to care?
 
If GM wanted to, they could have installed the inferior product on their cars. I'm sure people would have been happy with that (not serious).

Having a background in manufacturing, I know that very little is in the company's control when you have a third party company making a product for you. Often, we've had to delay the delivery of the product to a customer because of supplier issues. Sometimes we even received an entire batch of parts that were scrap because they weren't made right.

If I ordered the expensive optional equipment, I would be happy that GM is doing what they can to make sure you are getting a product that is worthy of being installed on the new Corvette, instead of just slapping on anything that is available to get you the final product. s**t happens to everyone, and very little is ever going to be 100%, 100% of the time. If you did order it, I'm GM will get it to you as soon as they can.
 
So. You know that the assembly line worker has X amount of time, right?
Let's say the line is moving at 60 units / hour. Employees on the line (in general) are tasked with 59 seconds of work. That leaves 1 second to obtain stock (and whatever else is required) for the next unit rolling at you.
Usually, approximately 3 months after 'job 1' (1st production unit) line workers are 'timed'. The motive now is....give these poor slobs 70 seconds worth of work to do in 60 seconds.
You see.....there were 36 workers in a partiular section of the line (a zone). Mgmt wants only 30 employees in said zone.
Three months later......rince and repeat.
It's not usually a matter of care, or caring....it's a matter of finishing the job at hand, with not enough time.
After hours / days / months / years of the same ole same ole, how can a line worker be expected to care?

I guess you have a point Axe. Not having been there it can be difficult to imagine, but I am also a "make the best" out of any situation type of person. I have only had three jobs in my entire career, applied myself every day, and loved everyone of them (and they were not all cushy jobs). I apologize if I've somehow insulted a line worker.
 
No apology required Rruff!
I'd be the 1st to admit that it looks easy, watching assembly line work, on video.
I found time, during my working yrs to partner up, and have a little side job action.
We had nothing but happy customers and we did quality work. But. If I had to step away for a leak, or whatever, I could. That's something you can't do while on the line. (maybe ISO recalls someone dropping a deuce in an econoline?.....wasn't me)
Auto assembly is what it is. It either goes together, or it doesn't. And, if TIME (such a big a factor, it's unexplainable) is available, it gets done properly.
 
For those lucky ones who managed to secure the 5vm codename: for visible carbon fibre splitter and side skirts for a whopping $4850.00: and those that are disappointed in hearing that GM has issues with a vendor who manufactures these parts, that the parts are not attainable due to issues beyond GM control. Shame on you GM you hade over 12 months if not longer to get all your vendors to comply twithquality and manufacturing issues. An item that carries a high price tag with a whopping profit to boot, is inexcusable. What other issues are there likely to surface now that production of the C8 is officially started. Very poor managerial control; if top management doesn't show due diligence then why should the line worker!
Wow, opened a can of worms. Hey guys, this has nothing to do with the line workers. It's the upper management that's at fault. The vendor dropped the quality ball. Yes, I do remember someone dropping a duce in a econoline.
 
Wow, opened a can of worms. Hey guys, this has nothing to do with the line workers. It's the upper management that's at fault. The vendor dropped the quality ball. Yes, I do remember someone dropping a duce in a econoline.
lol.....
I remember back a lot of years the talk of not buying a car built on a Monday or a Friday... Mondays the line is supposedly hungover and Fridays all they are only thinking of the weekend... How many stories about "extra window crank handles" that were found down inside the door trim when you were looking for that rattle noise.... Lol....
 
GM did not want to make their own parts, they subbed it all out. And still they cannot reliably process orders because the third parties don't meet expectations. Who holds the blame for that one? GM picked them, probably at the lowest cost and now buyers don't get what they want or they wait. Wonderful management plan. Just like my steering wheel position sensor story from long ago. A Corvette is just a half ton with less room to work.:Biggrin:
 
GM did not want to make their own parts, they subbed it all out. And still they cannot reliably process orders because the third parties don't meet expectations. Who holds the blame for that one? GM picked them, probably at the lowest cost and now buyers don't get what they want or they wait. Wonderful management plan. Just like my steering wheel position sensor story from long ago. A Corvette is just a half ton with less room to work.:Biggrin:

Every car out there has 90% or more of the components made by a third party company. This isn't news.
 
Of course it is not news. Just reality.
 
The auto industry is no different than any other business; by subleasing contracts to various vendors inevitably the one who is holding the money will take the lowest bid. GM and like their counterparts list a stringent list of quality concerns that vendors have to abide by, production and just in time delivery. Before GM rewards contracts the vendor has to prove that they are worthy and have to prove their abilities to manufacture a quality part on time. It looks like GM brass who are in charge of this also dropped the ball, there is no excuse at this stage of the game to have parts shortages. The vendor should have foreseen this and produced extra parts during their warm-up period. Either way, both parties are to be blamed.
 
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