Mobil 1
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I've had it done wrong once, and I only caught it after reviewing the part number when I got home. Fortunately they had no issue re doing it properly the next day. So now, every time I take it in, I make sure they mark the work order, stating Mobil 1 only.
This year once I get the car out ( hoping this week ) I'm going to change dealerships, since Gateway no longer has any Corvette mechanics. Thinking of moving to Frost, since they also handle Cadillac's so the commonality of the engines in the V line and the vette's should ensure getting properly educated mechanics working on the car if and when necessary.
This year once I get the car out ( hoping this week ) I'm going to change dealerships, since Gateway no longer has any Corvette mechanics. Thinking of moving to Frost, since they also handle Cadillac's so the commonality of the engines in the V line and the vette's should ensure getting properly educated mechanics working on the car if and when necessary.
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No issues, but I do remind them when I bring the car in for the oil change. I'm surprised Gateway has no Vette mechanics since they are a large C7 dealer. I think that is their lose.
I agree, big lose. They used to have 2, one full time and one part time. But when the management changed, seems a lot of things changed and with that they no longer have any.
Last fall before putting my vette away, I had it in for an issue with the phone/blue tooth. They did not resolve it and they had a tech from York out to work on it, but I've never heard anything from anybody on a resolution of the issue. Hopefully going to be getting the car out finally at the end of the week, and will call them to find out where they stand on the problem.
Pm me I have a letter from GM.
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I am sorry as I really don't know how I missed your thread as I started a different one in regard this similar issue.
After much effort, I finally found a GM Dealer Service Manager who showed me a GM technical document that references the VIN to determine whether the Mobil 1 is to be used in the 2 year program. After which it is the buyer's choice with it no longer being paid for by GM.
Everywhere I look I see that the VIN matters and that C7 Stingrays with Z51 and 3LT (dry sump) has endorsements of using only Mobil 1 which I take rather seriously as applicable to the warranty period. We might see the Mobil 1 endorsement gone from future Corvettes as the spec for the GM Blend Oil has now become a Pure Synthetic with apparently the same spec as the Mobil 1 as of January 2017. It will be hard to get me to switch though ....
- Jan 11, 2009
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I don't know guys, I'll get hate mail for this but having spoken to a few engine builders throughout the years and built several big power blocks (with those builders) every time I ask if I should be using Mobil 1 or Redline or RP or whatever expensive oil you find I get laughed at. The answer is always, use whatever, make sure it's the correct viscosity for the application but literally put whatever and change often if you're racing her.
Sounds like heresy and I'd get banned repeatedly on the BITOG forums if I mention the above but that's the feedback I've heard from some people who build engines for a living.
Sounds like heresy and I'd get banned repeatedly on the BITOG forums if I mention the above but that's the feedback I've heard from some people who build engines for a living.
- Aug 30, 2014
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I've tried to ban you several times... you just keep coming back.... 
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Eric may have just had the shortest run of any moderator on any forum.
- Dec 31, 2009
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I agree with you, Nik.
Several years ago, on a Motorcycle forum I belong to, a member that was an Engineer for GM who worked on the development of the Oil Life Monitoring System where they routinely ran engines to destruction, then analyzed the failures, did some testing for Motorcycle Oils.
The operating environment of a Motorcycle engine/gearbox is much harsher as the gear train shreds the molecules of the oil chains.
The conclusions from His testing was the best oil for a unit construction Engine/Gearbox application was good old Shell Rotella T 15W-40 Dino oil. All of the high priced Snake Oils could not compare.
Several years ago, on a Motorcycle forum I belong to, a member that was an Engineer for GM who worked on the development of the Oil Life Monitoring System where they routinely ran engines to destruction, then analyzed the failures, did some testing for Motorcycle Oils.
The operating environment of a Motorcycle engine/gearbox is much harsher as the gear train shreds the molecules of the oil chains.
The conclusions from His testing was the best oil for a unit construction Engine/Gearbox application was good old Shell Rotella T 15W-40 Dino oil. All of the high priced Snake Oils could not compare.
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I've tried to ban you several times... you just keep coming back....
Eric may have just had the shortest run of any moderator on any forum.
Me and Don will setup our own forums then...
Right Don?
But yeah the gist of it was plain old dino oil from the butt of a T-Rex was just as good as your velvety Royal Purple $1000 per qt stuff. I guess the I will self banish myself henceforth.
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Me and Don will setup our own forums then...
Right Don?
But yeah the gist of it was plain old dino oil from the butt of a T-Rex was just as good as your velvety Royal Purple $1000 per qt stuff. I guess the I will self banish myself henceforth.
Love to share a Magnum of "le petite quack" with you Nik,
while the rest celebrate by sipping "Dom Perignon"
as I am on the 2yr probation oil renew program and haven't really got to the cross road yet !
Drinkin' my wine ... makes me feel fine .... !
Oh wonder if the "Engine Builder Experts" testament you got to "use whatever as long as..."
is coming from Engine Builders(?) or Engine Rebuilders(?)
... as for the reply would maybe perpetuate their income ?
... I drink alone ... aaaaallllllll by myself ( and wonder why)
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Eric may have just had the shortest run of any moderator on any forum.
Not quite Murray.... there was that short stint I had on the Lada_Lovers forum...
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Eric, I gave you a like, well because I liked the response but you were sitting at the sign of the devil 666 and we don't want or need that stuff on here.
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You had me at drinking Spence
The guys I've talked to in depth are Texas Speed and out here with Nash (pretty reputable engine builder out in the GTA). I couldn't tell you what their agenda was if there is one but they do build/rebuild for a living so there's a bit of weight behind their opinions in my mind. I can tell you marketing machine for lube/oil companies in North America is definitely in overdrive compared to Europe for example.
Like I said a lot of people will disagree with me on this until Eric puts me out of my misery and figures out how to ban me.
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You had me at drinking Spence
The guys I've talked to in depth are Texas Speed and out here with Nash (pretty reputable engine builder out in the GTA). I couldn't tell you what their agenda was if there is one but they do build/rebuild for a living so there's a bit of weight behind their opinions in my mind. I can tell you marketing machine for lube/oil companies in North America is definitely in overdrive compared to Europe for example.
Like I said a lot of people will disagree with me on this until Eric puts me out of my misery and figures out how to ban me.
I have given the whole banning thing some thought Nik and have realized that, without you, the first forum glitch that occurred and I would be back to chatting with myself in the mirror.... So you are safe...for now...
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You had me at drinking Spence
The guys I've talked to in depth are Texas Speed and out here with Nash (pretty reputable engine builder out in the GTA). I couldn't tell you what their agenda was if there is one but they do build/rebuild for a living so there's a bit of weight behind their opinions in my mind. I can tell you marketing machine for lube/oil companies in North America is definitely in overdrive compared to Europe for example.
Like I said a lot of people will disagree with me on this until Eric puts me out of my misery and figures out how to ban me.
I like the interaction of this ... very much!
This would definitely make the best for the next BIG BROTHER CANADA (sorry TV reality crap)
by locking a bunch of us up in a house, interacting as we do, and then seeing who we all vote out each week.
(me thinks this makes an interesting thread to think about ....
... just kidding)... oh post above ... Eric must have just won the veto competition and made you "safe" Nik ...
(my apologies to those who may need to know how the Big Brother reality crap works)
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Eric, I gave you a like, well because I liked the response but you were sitting at the sign of the devil 666 and we don't want or need that stuff on here.
Thanks Murray... Never noticed but thank you..
. hmmmmmm... I would like to have played the blues like Robert Johnson though.... 
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So, I started this thread over a year ago. And aside from the off-topic friendly exchange that it evolved into, the question still remains?
Let me answer it. .
4th oil change last week.... and guess what? The dealer was about to put GM Dexos in my Z51 with dry sump.
For the 4th time. C7 is 4 model years old ... and the service teams still don't know which oil to put in?
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... damn ... it's annoying every time to hear it
The one dealer service manager that took out a book and showed me a document that ties the VIN to the Oil Change that is to be performed ...
would not let me have a copy of it so that I could post it for reference for everyone ... Insult to injury. The document does exist because I saw it and Dry Sump Z51
is documented for the Mobil 1 Synthetic in the 2yr program.
I honestly start to think that GM has put us in the middle of a "dispute" or "interpretation" only because the Canadian Dealers are not getting reimbursed enough for the Mobil 1 Oil renew.
What else could it be? Second to unqualified service techs (which would be a bigger issue). This is not an issue South of the 49th Parallel.
Our manuals have Mobil 1 written. Sure it's written on the back of the manual as US only ... but, other than that service page I saw, there is no alternate document written specifically for Canada. The books that come in our Corvettes that have US on the back of them is likely to hurdle the Canadian Content requirement for having to be written in English and French. US only is not on the back of the manual to imply that what is written in the book does not apply to Canada.
I'm on this like a dog on a bone until August 1st 2018 ... when I start to pay for oil changes that I want ...
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