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And in answer to your earlier question Spence [USER=3252]@SN-III[/USER] regarding the RD group's estimated ETA at Moose Jaw, our route time is 7 hours 40 minutes. If nothing changes and if our group ([USER=1629]@RockyPM[/USER] ,[USER=3298]@Rick9456[/USER] ,[USER=1756]@Jeffer2013[/USER] ) is still ok by July 12 with leaving Red Deer at 9:00 am, we would expect, after taking lunch and leisure stops into consideration, and also realizing that 7hr 40 assumes the speed limit, that we should pull into MJ between 6:51 and 7:19 pm. Sorry it took me a bit to get back to you... I sort of forgot.... lol...