I read an article the other day on gas & ethanol in local paper by car guy: suggesting not to use. Here in B.C. Esso 91 Octane and Shell are the ones to use. I use Shell 91 octane in my car basically because I get air miles.
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Nope. Built the plant themselves in 1933 after the feds placed a 3.7 cent a gallon tariff on them buying US gas. The plant cost them an astronomical cost of $32,000 which $30,000 savings was realized in the first year's sales. Out of interest, 32 k would equate to just under 2 million in todays dollars
Crazy: it would cost $5B to $15B to build a refinery ( depending on output 250k - 500K gal.)now and you say they built a full service refinery - oil to gas & distillates for $ 32K - even $2M does not seem to make sense?? My neighbour and other investors are having a state of the art refinery build in N.D. in the midst of their mega oil field right now. We can't get anything built here - we need a refinery here in B.C. big time.
Keep in mind that 2 mil is only what the 32 k 1933 dollars are worth now with inflation. That does not take into account the inflated cost of constucting for today's market. The 1933 plant was built with only a skimming plant capable of 500 barrels a day production. Thats only 15,750 gallons. In 1939 another 250,000 built them a cracking plant and In 1954 a 1.7 million expansion brought them up to 12,000 barrels per day; In 1974 another 30 million $ brought them to 30,000 barrels per day and in 2008 they began a 5 year 2.7 billion $ expansion to bring them to 130,000 barrels per day... Thats just over 4 million gallons per day. It's all relative.
That explanation makes sense: from very little production to a lot with added capabilities + billions of Canuck bucks ...
U were holding back on me making me get all the details bit by bit you rascal. I worked in the petroleum industry for over 10 years when I was a young buck: operations, accounting/audit and sales & marketing - wholesale and retail CORO ( company operated retail outlets - beginning of the mega self-serve centers.
Good example of inflation labour and probably material costs seeing this played out over several decades
Yeah, I use Chevron 94 octane in my new lawn mover and use to use in my car; but, now use Shell 91 (no ethanol) because of the air miles. Communicated with a guy from Richmond this am. - he and 4 other B.C. C.C. members are going for a ride to Harrison Springs for lunch today and all use regular gas in their vettes. About .20 diff. per L between regular and 91 and another .20 L for 94. WE pay stupid prices here in B.C. (especially where I live) for our fuel: carbon taxes which seem to increase and lack of our own supply - need a refinery.
Neither of my vettes has ever seen regular gas. If they're gonna miss the extra 20 cents a litre for 91 they should maybe consider trading for a Cruze... JMO
Or maybe an EV LOL
Regular gas can cause major engine problems which will eat up those $0.20 savings in a hurry
The mileage my Vette gets more than makes up for any savings running regular gas. When I wanted to play, the knock sensors would be degrading the horsepower numbers and economy anyway. Crazy idea. Maybe they could get a group deal on a few Cruze.
