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I agree with all of that and we do have the resources but it takes a lot of money to do all those things you mention and starting in March, we will no longer have excess money to build the infrastructure necessary thanks to Trump and his tariffs. Hell. We don't have excess money now without those massive cuts. The really unfortunate thing is we could have started years ago but governments felt it was more important to squander our money. I don't have 2024 numbers yet but in 2023 our federal government gave 15 plus BILLION $$$ to foreign countries. That and the previous decade or so of governments in power giveaways could have had us well on our way to some resemblance of self sufficiency.

[QUOTE="Rruuff Day, post: 359435, member: 2217"] I agree with all of that and we do have the resources but it takes a lot of money to do all those things you mention and starting in March, we will no longer have excess money to build the infrastructure necessary thanks to Trump and his tariffs. Hell. We don't have excess money now without those massive cuts. The really unfortunate thing is we could have started years ago but governments felt it was more important to squander our money. I don't have 2024 numbers yet but in 2023 our federal government gave 15 plus BILLION $$$ to foreign countries. That and the previous decade or so of governments in power giveaways could have had us well on our way to some resemblance of self sufficiency. [/QUOTE]

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